I write this, highly annoyed. Today I got my Pro PK Kit, $ 80. Now I had a PK Magnet and it was $ 30, called the PK Factor. I decided I wanted to go one step further than that to buy the much stronger M5 for 80 bucks, as i had had moderate success with the PK Factor. I open Pro PK Kit up, what do I find but the same magnet! Now granted, the Pro PK comes with the gimmick, a book, a manuscript linking rings, a steel core penny or two, a match, shim material, a shim shell and a wrist stap, and the PK Factor comes with only the gimmick, the manuscript, the match, and shim material. But if I have my math right, youre paying $ 50 dollars for the book, the rings, the 2 steel cores, the shell, and the wrist stap, and $ 30 dollars for the Micro 5, the match, and the shim material. !!!!!!!!!! I am a penguinmagic customer, but that has nothing to do with you being informed. So you should know, that if you want the Micro 5, plus some additional material, IT DOES NOT COST 80 BUCKS! I hate to do this, but i hate more being ripped off so here's the site : www.thetrickery.com. Buy the PK Factor (M5!!!) for $ 30, UNLESS of course you want a few other things for the additional 50. Again, Im sorry, but I want to set the record straight. Dan.

PS: get 2 M5s if ya like. One for each arm. Itll be 20 bucks less than the Pro PK. Now, to be proactive about all the controversy this may or may not get, Im only giving an honest, fair appraisal. The book looks fantastic and will offer you things that you might not think of with the PK Factor, but again, 50 bucks??? And the wrist strap is infinitely more comfortable than the rubber bands and duct tape I've configured, however BOTH systems work fine. Dan

Thinking back on your last post i am doubting that you even considered testing the strength of the magnet compared to the one you already have. If you think that just because a magnet is smaller it is less powerful, than you are even more ignorent than i thought. Its supposed to be small. How else could you conseal it?

I hate to mention this, but by using the "m" word you guys just gave away the secret to the masses.

actually most descriptions of other dealers than penguin use the m word. Its almost granted.

and yes Of COURSE i tested both of em against each other. And theyre the same size. Come on man, why else would i post it. Remember i was anticipating an "m word" maybe twice as strong w/ that price. they are EXACTLY the same.

Well Dan, when you purchase any "extended" kit you can expect to pay extra. I do however agree with you that's it's way overpriced for what the extras are.

This isnt really a review at all. Im just giving you guys the facts and you can choose from there. Dan

Frijid, go lock at the Pro Pk screen and read the disription. Magicmandan, You lost all of your liability when you posted about scotch and soda. I hope it was worth it. As for the Pro PK. I have it and another PK also. The pro is a lot more powerful.

Freed...I stand corrected on my "m" comment. Thanks for bringing that to my attention.

freed... im afraid youre getting me mixed up with someone else. I've never, i dont think, posted ANYTHING about scotch and soda EVER. And... i dont know even if i did post anything how could that break my liability? Huh??? Well, I think my liability's fine, however i think that your STUPIDITY is rather confirmed.

It's between you two now....I'm outta here...:>)

lol, no its not between us two frijid. im just proving my point and closing my case. haha

No, you are proving that you are a stupid [edited] that is stating your opinion as fact.

patheticness.