too bad. Well it looks like a great effect but I love my watch too much to replace it for a magic trick. On top of it I paid almost $2000 for my watch so I darn well better wear it

. I am probably going to try to continue with the standard coins and cards routine. I'll probably go ahead and buy an Alchemist Phantasy, Scotch & Soda (English Penny... I already have the Centavo but it's too awkward to only have one trick using the Centavo.. I use English pennies for Okito/Boston box, Hopping half, Sun and moon routines... etc.) I'm also going to probably go ahead and get (or make if I still have his lecture notes) the Osmosis bottle trick (label penetrates bottle). He gave a lecture years ago down here in Miami on how to make it (long before it was for sale). I'll probably go from coin-in-bottle to that as a kick ending. Otherwise I'm also looking at some standard card routines. I just have to figure out a transition effect now. Something that either goes from cards to coins.. or visa versa. I'm one of those guys who emphasizes flow. If we REALLY had magical ability, would we need to go into our bag/case and get more apparatus for each trick? NO! Flow is the most important part to a routine .. at least I think.. because if we had magic ability, we'd use it on whatever is on hand. That's why I personally love powerful tricks that don't even use gimmicks.. but in general they don't feel as powerful to me. I mean, after a while people figure out that you're forcing cards, or doing pinky breaks, etc. There's only so many moves out there (trust me.. I've read all the books) and people just aren't THAT dumb. Also I personally get bored of all of the same moves. It ruins the magic for us too. Gimmicks (especially self-contained ones) make the whole thing more fun for us too. Not so much that we don't know how the trick is done, but we marvel at the skilled craftmenship that goes into some of these tricks. I mean, honestly, take Scotch & Soda. Ever try to machine one yourself? It takes experience to get them to fit perfectly like that with no gaps and to lock. It's just neat. Really neat in fact. Ever think about an expanded shell? How the heck do they expand it without ruining the image? I mean, a regular half-dollar is one thing.. but what about silver halves? Silver is pretty soft. I just am amazed that they can do it. Or how about pen through anything. Have you seen the new one? It's just sooo cool. It's like.. big boy toys. We big boys need our toys. When you were 5 did you want to play with the same toy over and over? No. Why should we want to do that now? We get older.. we need MORE novelty if anything. The only problem is keeping this all in sync. We can use lots of gimmicks here and there, but to the spectator it must appear that the same coins are being used in every effect. To do this, I use an Invisible Hand (hold-out). It's great. Now if someone could invent one that doesn't need a coat that would be even better. I don't like to wear a coat on the street. I can get away with a light leather jacket but even that I don't like. Anyways.. I'm straying off topic. Thanks for the replies. I appreciate the help.