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 Post subject: Subterfuge Review
PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2005 6:42 pm 
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Awesome. I just got this today and excitedly waiting at school for my bro to pick me up so I can play with SMS. It's everything I thought it would be and more. Dvd is great. I really want to do this at school tomorrow but need a bit more practice :D . This blows the raven out of the water. This is like King Kong (SMS) vs A little kid (The raven) Thanks kenneth for creating such a great product, I will be using this every day ;) . The ring is a plain silver and is great for anyone to wear. The idea is genious and very smooth vanish. Anyone can use this product. Sorry I cannot post a bad quality video ..lol. Can't find the cd for the installation. But yeah so awesome, if I were to go back in time and had a chance to buy it again, I would.

Such an awesome utility tool.
I give it a 12/10

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Smooth vanish

You can do tons and tons of things with this (It's a magicians tool)

Stylish ring (I consider it)

Cons-

Noise is my fault
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Btw I thought I had fat fingers, I am 14 and size 9 3/4 fits perfectly on my middle finger

-Blindside


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2005 6:47 pm 
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Thanks for the review! :D


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2005 6:58 pm 
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What do you consider the shortcomings of this product are? I understand how it works and all, and I have seen one video of it (the one that gave me an epileptic fit by flashing "SUBTERFUGE MAGIC SYSTEM" over and over so much my pace maker blew up) but that is about it. So, what are the con's in your mind?

Thanks again for the review.

-Craig


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2005 7:15 pm 
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Oh for me I just found out that there is a noise issue if you don't do it correctly, but I figured it out..and got passed it. There really are no other cons except maby for that beginners have to wear a certain color of clothes. I've been practicing with it for about 30 minutes now and I can do it like a pro now. If you don't like the the stuff they give you, you can mod it which is awesome (lol not talking about the ring)

But still those cons will not lower the score

Ring is awesome in my eyes, This is like one of the first times I've ever worn a ring and its styling.


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2005 7:26 pm 
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Dangit, too bad they don't sell it on penguin, or I'd pick me up one....I dunno I just trust penguin over other magic sites....call me stubborn but oh well :roll:


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Thats really sad that you just limit yourself to penguin :?


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Can you give me the link, I guess I can check out the website...to the subterfudge product I am talking about..


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Harleyboy wrote:
Can you give me the link, I guess I can check out the website...to the subterfudge product I am talking about..


Subterfuge


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2005 7:49 pm 
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Sweetness! I just did it to my lil bro. Awesomeness!! After I am done improving my coin vanish I am going to go onto doing the coin shadow technique with SMS


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subterfugemagic.com


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PJHMarine wrote:
Harleyboy wrote:
Can you give me the link, I guess I can check out the website...to the subterfudge product I am talking about..


Subterfuge


Thanks.


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 6:05 pm 
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does it involve magnetism? because if it does... :roll:


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Something else...do you end clean? because that video was really suspicious in some parts, don's misunderstood i'm thinking about ordering it but i don't know if it will improve what i already do with my raven x2...


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 7:33 pm 
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Well it's your choice..if your pro with the raven x2 then I don't think you would need to buy subterfuge.

BTW

I going to my toga party in 10 minutes for Honors Wrld History, I got the setup just right so I can do the coin vanish with my toga :D .. I can't wait to do more things with my subterfuge..there are lots and lots more I can do with it. Anyways this ring is awesome, I'll wear it everyday.


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 7:35 pm 
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way different method than raven, so i hear. and you can do an awsome coin matrix with it. no raven that i have seen can ever accomplish that.

hey question does any one know if you can do a coin switch without a shell coin. and also i heard that you need the sms and the coins have to be gimmiked too. even for the vanish. is that true.


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