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 Post subject: effect with svengali
PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 11:36 am 
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i had an idea that if you riffled through the cards and let the spectator pick a card that's not the force card. you then say "i knew you would pick that card because all of the other cards are the same" and you riffle showing all of the force cards. ofcourse you can't use it in the same show as the original svengali deck because it would give the ending away, but you can try to use this effect as a small side trick or you can make the effect longer with more patter.


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hmm. i like that idea.


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I like this, would be quite awesome for strolling around the city :)


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 Post subject: Re: effect with svengali
PostPosted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 11:34 pm 
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drewer wrote:
i had an idea that if you riffled through the cards and let the spectator pick a card that's not the force card. you then say "i knew you would pick that card because all of the other cards are the same" and you riffle showing all of the force cards. ofcourse you can't use it in the same show as the original svengali deck because it would give the ending away, but you can try to use this effect as a small side trick or you can make the effect longer with more patter.



No disrespect, but wouldn't a rigged deck and any basic force do the same thing? as a lame side trick, I always show them the deck is well shuffled, then force the card, then tell them to make sure there card is in there, then show them all the same card. It's nothing fancy, but it works well for kids.


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 Post subject: Re: effect with svengali
PostPosted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 9:28 am 
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eldeeder wrote:
drewer wrote:
i had an idea that if you riffled through the cards and let the spectator pick a card that's not the force card. you then say "i knew you would pick that card because all of the other cards are the same" and you riffle showing all of the force cards. ofcourse you can't use it in the same show as the original svengali deck because it would give the ending away, but you can try to use this effect as a small side trick or you can make the effect longer with more patter.



No disrespect, but wouldn't a rigged deck and any basic force do the same thing? as a lame side trick, I always show them the deck is well shuffled, then force the card, then tell them to make sure there card is in there, then show them all the same card. It's nothing fancy, but it works well for kids.


He pretty much is using a rigged deck and a basic force...


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 Post subject: Re: effect with svengali
PostPosted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 9:41 pm 
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DavidTheCryptic wrote:
eldeeder wrote:
drewer wrote:
i had an idea that if you riffled through the cards and let the spectator pick a card that's not the force card. you then say "i knew you would pick that card because all of the other cards are the same" and you riffle showing all of the force cards. ofcourse you can't use it in the same show as the original svengali deck because it would give the ending away, but you can try to use this effect as a small side trick or you can make the effect longer with more patter.



No disrespect, but wouldn't a rigged deck and any basic force do the same thing? as a lame side trick, I always show them the deck is well shuffled, then force the card, then tell them to make sure there card is in there, then show them all the same card. It's nothing fancy, but it works well for kids.


He pretty much is using a rigged deck and a basic force...


I know, but a deck of 51 of the same cards plus 1, allows the force, and even allows the deck to be examined. I just don't think the effect he describes uses what the svengali deck was meant to do. Just my opinion though... Im kind of a rookie...


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