I'm definitely a Hoyle guy, they are made in the same factory as Bicycle, same materials . . . but cheaper on the shelf.

I LOVE BEE !!!! although its a little more expensive some places, the backs allow for easier sleights incase you flash, cause they're almost hypnotic lol

I enjoy bikes for almost every trick I perform accept productions, Bees are easier for me to conceal when im producing multiple cards. Bees are a little harder to fan, but a pinch of magic dust (fanning powder) fixes that problem right up.

I use bikes when performing magic, and red backed Bee's when doing manipulations.

my fav is bikes. They're familiar to the audience, have a nice feel, and a nice
back design. For productions, the best is another USPC brand called Stud (you can usually find it at Walgreens type places) because they're so thin and flimsy you can produce double the amount.

I like Bike Poker Sized 808s.

I agree with cheersaholic, I'm not a big fan of BEE cards, and for the exact same reason as well, because the back of the card has no white borders. When you try to do tricks such as RESET or any other effects where you require cards to be back to back with each other, it just becomes waaaay too obvious if you cannot keep the cards completely and perfectly square! In terms of quality of the cards, they should be the same as Bicycle. I would like to believe that they are of the same quality as Tally-Ho's because they're made by the same company (International Playing Card Company), and some Penguin customer representative said that they are of the same quality, but it seems that everyone else thinks that Tally-Ho's are of better quality. I don't own a Tally-Ho deck, so I wouldn't know what the fuss is about, but for me I like Bicycle because most trick decks or trick cards are made with Bicycle backs, allowing gafted cards to look normal when you pull it out of a normal Bicycle deck.

mahjustin, u're from s'pore rite? any idea whereabouts in s'pore do they sell tally hos? i want to try one myself n see wad the fuss is all about. btw we both have the same first name haha

Bee's and Tally's are the same cards, with the same finish, made by the same company with different back designs.

Bee's are used for manipulation (McBrides uses these) and for gambling routines.False dealing is way easier with Bee's.

Bee's are used in casinos, and they are very, very high quality.

Bikes have a different clear finish called "air cushion."

Cards with a white border(Tally's and Bikes) are best for most sleight of hand card magic, as the white area gives you a margin for error.

No cards look normal to people. It's the magic that looks normal. I've been looking in people houses at their cards, and I've seen dozens of different style. Most of what magicians think about playing cards is all in their heads.

Use whatever cards give you the most confidence.

Bikes and Tally Hos are not the same exact cards and if you own both kinds you can plainly see that. Tally Ho uses Linoid finish and Bikes use Air Cushion finishes.

Yes, just like my post states, what are you talking about????

I said Bees and Tally's not Tally's and Bikes. To top it off you even have my quotes?????? Did I not write it clear enough for you or something????

I state, and you quote me, that BIKES HAVE A AIR CUSHION FINISH, and yes I'm yelling this.

Lol, do you guys really need to get this trivial over card brands?

I think that clears up a lot of stuff for some people.

Sorry dude... I'm not from s'pore (I'm assuming you're talking about singapore?). I'm from Canada. If you want to get Tally-Hos then just buy them from Penguin.

http://www.penguinmagic.com/product.php?ID=562

Check it out.