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 Post subject: Hand size for palming
PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2003 12:15 pm 
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Like many people, I think my hands are too small for a convincing palm. From the base of my hand (the part where your wrist becomes your hand) to the tip of my middle finger measures 7 1/4". The same point to the tip of my thumb measures about 5 1/4". Can I get some more measurements and your experiences, good or bad, at palming?


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2003 12:29 pm 
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palming is normaly used in a moment of misdirection, even if you flash a little it's fine as long as the spec is focusing on somehing else, you have it made in the shade


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2003 1:32 pm 
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i have small hand to. my middle finger measure 6 1/4" and my thumb is 5". if you try the tenki palm it shouldn't matter but you have to watch your angles


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2003 5:31 pm 
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He is right that palming is all misdirection. I can't do a classically "good" palm. I just sort of move the top card forward a half inch or so and then bring my hands together to do the palm--I have never been caught because it is always done at a moment of misdirection. I know Sankey has small hands and yet does palming with no problem.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2003 5:53 pm 
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my fingers are long and skinny, so i can plam just fine, but you can see the card through them. I leaned that you have to palm REALLY fast, or else they will catch you!


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2003 6:23 pm 
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Bravesaint is correct, palming is often a matter of directing the attention of the audience to where you want it to be, away from the "palm".


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2003 6:28 pm 
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I don't have the deck myself, but the mini bicycle deck they sell here at penguin might make it easier to palm cards.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2003 12:25 am 
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You might want to look into Bicyle brand bridge sized cards. They are a little narrower and slightly easier to palm.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2003 4:59 am 
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I found this in my Royal Road to Card Magic:

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The first thing a beginner is likely to say is that his hands are too small; he cannot conceive that he should hold so large an object as a playing card in his hand secretly. To show what a mistaken notion this is, test it in this way:
Take a card and lay it on your hand with the fingers extended in such a
way that its outer left corner is at the outer phalanx of the little finger and
its inner right corner against the ball of the thumb. Flex the fingers slightly
and turn your hand over. You will find that the card is held (that is, palmed)
securely, and so long as the fingers are pressed together it is completely hidden. Since one's hand always has a half-closed appearance when in repose, the position of the hand will appear to be a perfectly natural one. At first you will be so conscious of the presence of the card in your hand that you will want to drop it to your side or even put it behind your back.
To overcome this self-consciousness the best thing to do is to
become so accustomed to having a card in your hand that you no
longer take any notice of it. When you are reading a book or
listening to the radio, place a card in your hand in the proper
position, bend the fingers slightly, and then try to forget all about it.
In a very short time you will become so used to it that you will be
able to move your hand freely and naturally, always remembering,of course, that the back of your hand must always be outwards. Do
not be afraid to bend the card; you cannot palm it naturally unless
you do.
Practically everyone, when beginning to practise the palming of
cards, will be careful to keep the fingers curved naturally but will
overlook the importance of having the thumb lie in its natural
position along the side of the hand. When the thumb extends at a
right angle from the hand, a reflex action which must be overcome,
its unnatural appearance at once attracts attention to the hand and
arouses suspicion.


I hope this helps you


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2003 9:37 am 
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i dont really have a problem with palming if i keep my hand moving. my hand measured 9 1/2" from the wrist bse to middle finger, and from my thumb it measures 7".


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2003 11:13 am 
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wow that was really helpful! Is the rest of the book like that? What other tricks does it have?


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2003 1:39 pm 
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paml then put into tenkai very convincing theres nothing in your hand. angles is only problem


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