im just wondering if theres a better version of twist by zenneth. The same idea type of trick. shaking the cards and the aces flip type of trick?

check out stealing pips

i especially like lord of the twist,

it gets really good reactions.

You might want to check out Twisting the Aces by Dai Vernon. It can be found in Ammar's ETMCM volume 2. You don't get to see the aces turn over visually, but it is still an amazing trick.

Why stealing pips? He doesn't take about a trick where all 4 aces turn over, he does however talk about the move.

Lee Asher has something called the "asher twist" which can be seen on his "Well Done Cooking" video.

Reed McClintock has the McClintock twist out, check out his video called "McClintock Twist".

And Dai Vernon has "twisting the aces" in one of his books, and in Ammar's dvd, volume 2.

I personally use Dai's original version, but my second choice is the Asher Twist. PS: Sorry if I mispelled anyones name.

TONS, TONS, TONS of Twisting effects out there. I mean TONS. LOL. Just about every magician in history had his own version of Dai's "Twisting the Aces."

I will attempt to list a few.

Waving the Aces by Guy Hollingworth
Drawing Room Deceptions by Guy Hollingworth, pp. 21-30

Twisting the Aces by Dai Vernon
Dai Vernon's More Inner Secrets of Card Magic by Lewis Ganson, pp. 5-8

Twist' In by Larry Jennings
The Classic Magic of Larry Jennings by Mike Maxwell, pp. 122-123

Personally, I use the original.

Zenneth Kok is a great man.
He has learnt magic for only three years.
He is the proud of Chinese.