I like the "Invisible Pass" - where the bottom half comes over the top half.

I have trouble with the Classic Pass (where the top half is lifted up and the bootm half is raised to the top). Something abotu the angles and the lifting of the top half....

Of course the Invisble Turnover Pass is always effective, but just not as convincing as when the deck is face down the entire time.

what do you guys think? How often do you use the Pass

I use that really horrible pass, where the cards go shooting across the room when I go to transfer the bottom half to the top. In other words, I have been working on learning any form of the pass (mainly the turn-over pass) for about a year now and can't seem to get it right.

I applaud anyone who can do the pass smoothly and undetected.

I always do the classic riffle pass when I am performing to somebody that knows a lot of different combinations of shuffles.

classic riffle

I'm working on Richard Kaufman On the Pass DVD at the moment... I'm very envious of anyone who can do the pass, in any of its incarnations

what are the advantages of doing the classic pass, versus the invisble pass (bottom half comes over top, versus other way around)

I use the Invisible pass, the key is to talk with your audience keep their focus away from the deck for that second it takes to do it. Almost got caught by my Mom when she visited a couple of weeks ago, but like she said "Remember I looked thru those magic books you had when you were a kid" Ah well, Killer Key, some silk magic and a few other effects kept her quiet!!

come to think of it... I also have a place for the invisable

I learned the Herrmann Pass ages ago, which is very similar to the Invisible Pass. Strangely enough, I was just looking at the Invisible Pass in Card College to figure out which I prefer. Both are a lot easier than the Riffle Pass, but I’m probably gonna work on it soon.

I just want to know if there are any negative aspects to using the Invisible Pass.

It seems that both Invisble and Classic have the same angle concerns, just at different times in the move. And Invisible is easier to learn.

Am I missing something?

and bravesaint, what did you mean you had a place for Invisible?

I currently have no place for a pass in my routine. I am, however, working on Larry Jennings' variation of the Top Card Cover Pass; I feel it may come in handy in an Ambitious Card routine sometime.

i dont know the name of the pass i do, i learned it at the end of vol.2 on the loose with bill malone. its great, you roll up your sleeves and its done :D :D :D :D

Classic Riffle.
Haven't even ever preacticed the Invisible or any other incarnation, really. I just tried it a few times but I don't see how it's any easier...

I use a regular pass, and working on the riffle. But I rarely use them in performances

I use the invisible P[edited] with the cover of squaring the cards, the riffle, and the table top.