yea, i practice this and a coin roll about the same, but my coin roll is considerably better than my muscle pass

Jay has a new Muscle Pass DVD. It looks quite interesting.

http://www.penguinmagic.com/product.php?ID=1642

haha yea, i dont think i am going to gget it, though

Yes, but a coin roll is considerably easier to learn than the muscle pass. The latter of course, making my palm hurt for days on end when i was learning.

The coin roll is a better thing to learn than the muscle pass IMHO. It's something you can just do at a table with a quarter and people automatically look at your hand as if in a trance and go "How do you do that!?!" It's what i I call a "chill sleight" because I often do it subconciously while chilling with friends.

haha, yea thats how i get people to approach me about tricks rather than me forcing it on them

Before when I did this, it hurt really bad and I got blisters easy. Now the skin there by the thumb is really tough. No pain no more. It's a thing in the past almost. On both hands too! I havn't had much time to practice it lately so now I can't really do it. I used to be able to get it about a foot and a half in the right hand and about a foot in the left.

ok so im guessing that learning flourishes is better than learning sleights?
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What are you talking about? He never said anything like that. I think he's saying that lay people are more impressed with the dexterity that a coin roll seems to show than they are with the muscle pass. He didn't say that flourishes are more important than sleights, even though flourishes are sleights.

sleight
–noun
1. skill; dexterity.
2. adroitness in using the hands.

Daniel116 must have something against me, because he's puttin' words in my mouth.

Muscle pass is something for magic time. However, it's not constantly magic time. The coin roll is something for anytime, and it hints about magic, which is a great way to get people to approach you. It's more versatile, can be done in any situation. Except like funerals or something.

yo ucould do it in a funeral, just dont drop it..

u said that learning the coin roll is better than learning the muscle pass and i disagreed.

stop whining please

If you disagreed, then you could have handled it like a sane person and stated the reason, instead of assuming a bunch of stuff and then swearing. Yeah real mature.

Then when I give more backup for my reasons, you say that I'm whining. If you want whining, reread your posts.

"The coin roll is a better thing to learn than the muscle pass IMHO"
i dont understand why we're arguing
these are your words

No one was whining, Daniel.

You're allowed to disagree, but you wrote:

"ok so im guessing that learning flourishes is better than learning sleights?
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Really, it's not necessary, and I think that a lot of people would appreciate it if you didn't try to act tough over the internet.