im thinkin about getting the muscle pass DVD. but im not sure. it took me a long time to learn the muscle pass. i just want to learn other applications for it. how mush of the dvd is going to be learning, and how much is going to be things you can do with it. ill probably end up getting it anyway. but i figured it couldn't hurt to ask. thanks
Dennsky

Try reading the page for the Muscle Pass. It tells you exactly what you're going to learn from it. And as of now, until at least July 14th (at least 1 day shipping), no one is going to be able to tell you too much more than what the information on the page will tell you.

http://www.penguinmagic.com/product.php?ID=1642.

Honestly, I'd say it would be worth the money. Now, I'm saying that because I ended up getting In the Beginning There were Coins. And it was a lot better then I thought. Jay was a very good teacher, and if this DVD is anything like that, it's going to be worth the money.

thats what i was thinking. i wrote jay an email and he said there is mostly applications of the pass. so im going to go with YES. jay is a good teacher

so the dvds not comming out till the end of the month now?

My personal opinion is that the dvd is a waist of money. all you need to do is find where to put the the coin on your hand and how to shoot it. Which can be done by a little internet research or youtube. once you no how to do its all practice a DVD isnt going to change anything.

Did you not read what dennskymcfish said?

"i wrote jay an email and he said there is mostly applications of the pass."

You really dont get it, do you?
The dvd is applications, and uses of the pass. As well as a very good magician teaching you the mechanics of it. You are not going to be able to gain this knowledge from an over-anxious 11 year old exposer on youtube.
And btw, you are promoting exposure, which is wrong IMO

Why should you have to pay for every magic trick. penguin e llusio nist and all those other sites just want your money. Why not get a few tricks for nothing. And sure theres people who are going to look up your tricks. Who cares your never going to see them agian and if there not willing to accept the gift that magic is thats there problem who cares about a little exposure As long its not trademarked by anyone Which alot of magic.

thats my opinion please respect it andi will respect yours.

Because YOU did not create it, and the creators are getting paid for their rightful creation.

Hmm, so do car dealerships, right? Ever hear of car jacking-just like exposure.

Because it is unethical, and wrong IMO

They will expose, and your "genius" effect is now the new balducci.

Thats a pretty [EDITED] redundant statement.


And no, i do not respect your opinion.

Don't diss on the Balducci Levitation. It's a killer!

My bad
I guess i was drunk

It is REALLY hard to do a Balducci levitation while inebriated. TRUST me. lol.