I'm slightly short on cash and i can get one now and one after the holidays.
Which do you think i should get? i know all the basic sleights and vanishes i would mostly get ITBTWC for the routines and to learn if ive been doing the sleights correctly.

I know im going to end up with both and if i get muscle pass now i might be decent at it by the time i get the other what do you think?

Do you wanna learn the basics of coin magic and some cool routines, or the Muscle Pass and a few cool tricks with it?

I own both and feel the muscle pass is really more of a flourish type effect. If you don't already on Bobo's coin magic, I suggest that, but IBWC does teach the basics and a couple of coin routines.

I would suggest maybe getting some David Roth videos or Micheal Rubenstein(Don't know if that's spelled right). You could learn ton's of cool coin routines on any video by them. I know they are older but they contain tons more information than most newer videos. I would recommend Anti-Gravity Coin by Kris Nevling but I'm a little biased on that one so I'll just recommend anything from Roth, Rubenstein, or even Ammar's Easy to Master Coin Tricks. You can't go wrong with those names.

i already own modern coin magic and can do all of the sleights and most of the routines. The only reason i would be getting ibtwc would be to learn the routines and see if im doing the sleights correctly but w/e im going to end up with both or maybe something better eventually so...

we cant help you if you lie to us

That was an extremely presumptuous statement and not to be rude that was extremely uncalled for. Yes i do own modern coin magic and I'm planning on getting both effects so on what counts am i lying?

And what made you jump to such a conclusion? if you let me know i'll gladly change it but if people accuse me i will not tolerate it even something as petty as in an online forum

further more if your going to post just answer the question and not flame me

best reguards

-will

I say get ITBTWC first since you already know most of the sleights you will be learning. It will just help the basics of your coin magic a little more, and that's where coin magic starts: the basics. Try not to venture off into anything else until you've truly gotten some basic coin stuff down patt.

i say skip both , get bobos

HE HAS BOBO. He's said it a few times.



He was referring to the fact that you said all the sleights and most of the routines in Modern Coin Magic. Not many people can say that, especially here. Don't take it too personally.

My recommendation: In the Beginning.

If you know ALL the sleights and MOST of the routines in Bobo's book, you shouldn't be asking anyone on a forum what to get, you should be lecturing them on what to get.

Why not get the modern coin magic dvd set. You want to know what the moves are supposed to look like, get that.

i meant that as in all the concealments vanishes and most of the single coin routines ( the ones in the back of the book)

If you're looking for routines I think you'd find the muscle pass DVD short of your expectations. Revolutionary Coin Magic is an excellent DVD and definitely a step up from the basics - it has lots of material for good routines.

Yah, I heard that DVD is actually a pretty good one. Although, be aware that I also heard that Jay Sankey (teacher of the DVD) tries to be funny through a lot of the DVD and gets annoying after a while. I'm pretty sure that that's what I read about Revolutionary Coin Magic somewhere on these forums... Just wanted to let you know.