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 Post subject: MM Modern Coin Magic DVD
PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 8:06 pm 
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Hey all--

I'm going through Modern Coin Magic and am having a blast. I was wondering if anyone who has the Magic Makers Modern Coin Magic DVD set could tell me if it's worth the money. I have a couple of other MM DVDs, and have been pretty disappointed with them. I realize that people have become coin masters for 50 years with just the book, but I don't know anybody in the magic community and sometimes I feel like if I could just see some of these moves performed, I'd be more confident in what I've learned. Any feedback is greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Ethan


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 9:13 pm 
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I bought the DVDs from Ebay for $30. I think for that price it's worth the money for sure. They are good DVDs.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 10:31 pm 
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sirbrad has raved about this dvd a few times. So I'd say it's probably worth the money. I really loved david stones coin magic dvds. They're the best i've seen.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 10:46 pm 
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I have heard it is really good on the magic cafe. Your best bet is to go to Tim Feher. He s on these forums under the name tfeher11 or feher. Can't remember. He is probably the most educated under this topic you will ever see lol. He has read and re read this book backwards so I'm sure he will be of help to you. Good luck!


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I liked them. Ben is a personable guy and has skill. He's also a good teacher.


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 Post subject: Re: MM Modern Coin Magic DVD
PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 11:27 am 
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horatio7 wrote:
Hey all--

I'm going through Modern Coin Magic and am having a blast. I was wondering if anyone who has the Magic Makers Modern Coin Magic DVD set could tell me if it's worth the money. I have a couple of other MM DVDs, and have been pretty disappointed with them. I realize that people have become coin masters for 50 years with just the book, but I don't know anybody in the magic community and sometimes I feel like if I could just see some of these moves performed, I'd be more confident in what I've learned. Any feedback is greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Ethan


I have the old school Bobo's Modern Coin Magic text as well as the DVDs with Ben. There are only two things that I dislike about the DVD series: (1) the music is very repetitive (and a bit lame) and (2) there are a few things in the text that are not covered. That being said, Ben does a nice job explaining the various techniques/effects and the camera work is great...

My overall opinion is that the DVD series is by no means a replacement of the book, but it is an excellent tool for better understanding the text. I would say that if you have the extra money, and if there are places in Modern Coin Magic where you need further clarification, then you should pick up these DVDs -- you will not be disappointed ^_^

Good Luck,
Kyle

P.S. As girspiggy mentioned, if you haven't checked out Tim Feher's videos, do yourself a favor and go here:

http://www.youtube.com/user/tfeher11

...Tim is a great guy and very skilled; you can learn a lot just by watching his technique ^_^


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 11:51 am 
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Yeah I know Ben personally, a very skilled technician and great personality. I loved the DVD long before I ever knew him. I think overall it is the most comprehensive video at the best value on the market. You won't be disappointed I can assure you.

Here is the contents for the MCM DVD:

Modern Coin Magic 4 DVD Set List of Effects Performed & Explained



DVD 1

Coin Concealments
The Classic Palm
The Edge Palm
The Thumb Palm
The Downs Palm
The Finger Palm
The Front Finger Hold
The Back Palm
The Back Finger Clip
The Back Thumb Palm

Basic Technique
The Bobo Switch
Utility Switch
One-Hand Switch
Shaw-Judah Coin Switch
The Click Pass
Paul Morris Click Pass
The Coin Flip
Change-Over Pass
The Bottom Steal
Producing a Coin from a
Spectator's Clothing
Taking Advantage of a Fumble 1 & 2

Coin Vanishes
Standard Vanish
Simple Vanish
Over the Top
The Tunnel Vanish
Thumb Palm Vanish
The Drop Vanish
The Bobo Coin Vanish
The Slide Vanish
The Illusive Coin Pass
A Coin Vanish
The Pinch Vanish
Gone
The New Era Coin Go
The Flyaway Coin
Behind the Back
The French Drop (Le Tourniquet)
The Reverse French Drop
The Wrist Watch Vanish
The Pulse Trick
The Cranium Vanish
Vanish with the Aid of a
Handkerchief
The ?Head? and ?Tails? Vanish
A Vanish for Several Coins
A Trio of Vanishes

Bonus Material:
Spellbound (Vernon)
Edge Grip
Curl Palm
Muscle Pass
French Drop Switch
Jimmy Wilson Vanish
Ramsey Subtlety
Kaps Subtlety
Spider Vanish
Tenkai Pinch
Kaps Palm to Palm Switch
Strike Vanish



DVD 2

Complete Coin Vanishes
The Bobo Complete Coin Vanish
Complete Thumb Palm Vanish
Knee-zy Vanish
Sucker Vanish
Pocket Vanish
With a Handkerchief - 1-3
In a Spectator's Pocket 1-3
Bluff Vanish
Sucker Bluff Vanish
The Coin Fold
The Envelope Vanish

Quick Tricks
Through the Leg
Rubbed Through the Leg
Through the Pocket 1-3
Through the Hand 1-3
Through a Handkerchief 1-2
Double Penetration
Pants Leg Miracle
Half Dollar to Quarter
The Charmed Coin
The Coin of Metamorphosis
Coin to Key
Change for a Half
Much from Little
Smart Coin Trick
Impromptu Version
The Switchover
The Appearing Half
Coin Production from Two Cards
The Touch of Midas
One to Four
One to Six

Cuffing
Dr. E.M. Roberts Method
Louis Tannens Method

The Art of Sleeving
Delayed Action Sleeving
Improved Method
The "Pumpkin Seed" Vanish
Reverse "Pumpkin Seed" Vanish
The Catapult
Judah Method
A Unique Sleeving Move
The Throw
Kort Method
Kirk Stiles Method
A Method of Sleeving one of
Several Coins
Dr. E. M. Roberts' Method
Loading
Tricks Using Sleeving
Migration
Transposition
Devaluation
Inflation
Transformation
Dime and Penny for the Wiseacre
A Novel Vanish and Reproduction
Splitting the Atom
Die to Dime

DVD 3

Coins Across
Copper and Silver Transposition
The Curious Nickel
Two Pennies on the Leg
The Inseparable Pair
Coins in the Teeth
The Drop Pass
The Hippity Hop Half
Rapid Transit
Winged Silver
The Flying Eagles
Three and Three
Chinese Money Mystery
Four Coins to a Glass

Coin Classics
Coin Through a Ring
Silver or Copper Extraction
The Expansion of Texture Expanded
The Gadabout Coins
The Three Coin Trick
The Bent Penny
The Ghost of a Coin
Coins Through the Table
Frank Garcia?s Version
Magical Filtration of Four Half Dollars
The Sympathetic Coins
The Changing Change
The Coin Roll
The Downs Coin Star
Roll Down Flourish with Four Coins
Downs Eureka Pass & Routine
Rattle Box Routine
Thieves and Sheep
Just Pretend
The Free and Unlimited Coinage of Silver
Coins and Cards



DVD 4

Coin Boxes
The Okito Coin Box
Coins Through Box and the Hand
Okito Box, Coin and Handkerchief
Routine with an Okito Coin Box and a Silk
Silver to Copper with the Okito Coin Box
George Boston Combination Coin Box
Coins Through Box & Hand
Copper & Silver Transition
The German Coin Box

Shell and Folding Half
The Shell Half
Mystery with a Half Shell
How to Make Money
Three Questions
Coin Through a Glass
Perfected Coin Through Handkerchief
25c and 50c Transposition
The Peregrinating Halves
Coins Through the Table
The Protean Coin
The Sympathetic Coins
The Modern Miser
The Folding Half
The Magic Mint
Biting a Piece from a Coin

The Miser's Dream
T. Nelson Downs' Original Version
The Elusive Pass
New Change-Over Palm
Downs' New "Click" Pass
Downs' New Fan Pass
The Downs' Eureka Pass
The "Turnover" with Multiple Coins
The Miser's Dream Routine
Perpetual Coins


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 12:12 pm 
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Thanks a lot, everyone!

I love Bobo's book to death, but sometimes the explanations and illustrations fall a little short. Again, since I've only been practicing for a year now and don't know anyone else who's serious about magic, it's hard to keep myself in check sometimes. It wasn't until I found these forums and coinvanish.com that I realized that my classic palm was all wrong. Months of practice down the tubes!


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 4:56 pm 
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Lol You can also just go onto the cafe and talk to them there too. It seems like almost everything from Bobo's is in the DVD. You might actually get a little more out of the DVD because some of the stuff in the DVD wasn't clearly noted in the book. The edge grip wasn't recognized in it yet it was still used and it was a pain in the butt trying to find it lol


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 6:11 pm 
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Thanks guys for the prop's but I'm a master at nothing and can prove it.
But seriously Bobo's can be hard to figure out sometimes the DVD is a good companion with the book Ben does a wonderful job showing the moves.
But if you do need help my door is always open.
Tim


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 6:15 pm 
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feher wrote:
my door is always open.
Sorry Tim lol. I had to lol. If you havn't already done so, Tim has a miraculous youtube channel. He has a big variety of Bobo extras on his channel for you to watch, you need the book of course to understand what he is saying (no you seriously need the book, it is all "broken down" and abbreviated) and he goes through each of the chapters performing the moves and giving his thoughts on them as he does as well as a few simple routines to try out if you have the book.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 6:28 pm 
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I've actually seen Tim's channel and commented on his videos. Great stuff, Tim.

Thanks again for the support.


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