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 Post subject: My coins suck...
PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2004 4:43 pm 
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I need advice from all who can help....My coin repretoire is VERY lacking....

Please name the 5 best coin tricks (ungimmicked) and if possible where I can learn them.

Also the 5 most important sleights in coin magic.(exclude Coin Roll, I'm working on it)

I own Ammars beginners coin video, Bobo's Modern Coin Magic and On The Spot


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2004 5:57 pm 
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Great post!

Coin roll is a flourish, not a sleight, but that is just fine. Learn it and it adds a great effect to your show.

5 routines and effects you ask?

I would work on the following.

-Appearances/Disappearances (it works alot better than pulling them from your pocket).
-Work on a Matrix Effect (Roth's chink-a-chink)
-Work on Coins Across type (Slydini)
-Research Down's Works (featured in Bobo's)
-Also, pick up some coin to silk routines (Roth has some great ones)

sleight wise, research the following:

-Classic Palm (first and foremost)
-French Drop
-Russian Grab
-Clips

and I believe the best switch ever is "THE BOBO SWITCH"

Work on this stuff and as you get more advanced, continue on to the more advanced sleights. PM me if you want to talk more.


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2004 7:01 pm 
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My french drop is the only redeeming quality of my coin work...I can do Bill Malones Matrix which I love...


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2004 8:50 pm 
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Adammcd wrote:
My french drop is the only redeeming quality of my coin work.


Then your pretty much halfway there! lol. The Klutz Book of Magic says that you can learn the French Drop in five minutes, and spend five years perfecting it. It's a piece of art.

If you like matrix's then I would suggest buying Matrix God's Way: By John B. Born as it looks really good and has plenty of matrix's to keep you busy!
http://www.coinvanish.com/reviews.html# ... %92s%20Way


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2004 9:21 am 
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For sleights:Classic Palm(a must),finger palm,edge grip,thumb palm,and
back clip.Learn the steals taught in the Ammars video you have.

For tricks and routines:Start with Roth,love him as I do or not.He is just a
complete technical master.Also try Rubinsteins encyclopedia of coin sleights and knockout magic.There is David Stone,Paul Cummins and as you progress go to Sankeys Rev. Coin Magic.Just my oppinions.

Enjoy.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2004 12:09 pm 
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dklord21 wrote:
For sleights:Classic Palm(a must),finger palm,edge grip,thumb palm,and
back clip.Learn the steals taught in the Ammars video you have.

For tricks and routines:Start with Roth,love him as I do or not.He is just a
complete technical master.Also try Rubinsteins encyclopedia of coin sleights and knockout magic.There is David Stone,Paul Cummins and as you progress go to Sankeys Rev. Coin Magic.Just my oppinions.

Enjoy.


I would avoid Sankey at all costs. But that is coming from a humble coin worker and is only his opinion.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2004 1:09 pm 
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I would avoid Sankey at all costs. But that is coming from a humble coin worker and is only his opinion.[/quote]

I found Jays personality to be interesting,and he has some interesting
ideas.I understand from another thread your disdain and I think its terribly
unfortunate.This is one of the last fraternities if you will, that seriously tries
to remain respectfull of the art and its practitioners.Situations such as yours...which I do not presume to understand I wish never happen.In addition you have a lot of very knowledgeable young Magicians who show the respect and genuine interest in the history of our art.However there are too many who don't,and all they know are the few tricks and magi they come in contact with on the web.I presume not too be as well versed as I'd like,particularly being pretty new to coins but I'm learning.
I'm saying all of this not specifically as a response to you but some other
threads where I've seen a couple of Magi not appreciating the great craft
of the older and true Magicians...I.E. the Roths,Goshmans,and Vernons.

Sorry to ramble.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2004 1:25 pm 
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I agree. See...it seems here at Penguin (I also refer to it as The Church of Sankey) that all the newbies and beginners are obsessed with Sankey.

I ask them about Slydini or Roth or some other classic pioneers of coin magic, and they just look at me blank faced and say ".....uhhhh....I like Sankey."


Those who are true workers will never forget the roots.

Thank you for that post.


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