The Bat or Raven

dalmark1 · **Posted:** Sun Sep 12, 2004 5:02 pm

I would get the bat. I have it and have had alot of fun with it.

EaZy_T · **Joined:** 10 May 2004 **Posts:** 180

I was thinking about getting the Bat, but then I saw posts about how the Raven can do Bat effects too.

shnoba · **Joined:** 12 Sep 2004 **Posts:** 19

i've read alot of posts but i think i hear more that the bat can do raven effects and more not the other way around overall i think im going to buy the bat. im willing to practice so yah

LPU · **Posted:** Sat Oct 23, 2004 9:44 am

just get the pro pk kit. it can do what the bat and raven can do

smith1302 · **Joined:** 27 Oct 2006 **Posts:** 1

listen up guys dont ask why but i have like all the stuff, bat, raven pro pk kit. of course the pk kit is best get that if u can but if u cant get that then get the bat. all the raven can do is vanish. the bat can vanish and do so so much more. not saying the raven is bad but the bat in my opinion is better.

if u still can decide get the pk kit its well worth the price, i got it off ebay for 20 bucks.

kallx · **Joined:** 03 Jul 2006 **Posts:** 414

hello. yesturday I made a pull of some everydayobjects and it worked bether than the raven and the bat it's the best pull ever. you can make every ting wanich it's andles rutines with this. take a look http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQE-oblyGTw I did 2 trick's with this but if I want I can make a pen go frome my left hand to the right hand in 1 sec it's beautiful

mrbean12 · **Joined:** 12 Nov 2006 **Posts:** 12

MasterJ wrote:

really I do not like either one. just an opinion (people seem to know how both r done because of people exposing it on websites and someone even said on tv)

the website where i found out where it was done you now have to pay to be a member on.

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