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PostPosted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 3:06 pm 
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And since that was a terrible attempt by Drew, I stopped keeping score. He brought it back, and now the bad 2.0 jokes will come flooding as if someone opened the gates of edited itself.


I don't think most people go what I was saying. Like, you know... Popchris doesn't have a fetish with Sankey, and Penguin 2.0 will be here in two weeks. Like two things we know aren't true. Nevermind... it doesn't make sense when you type it... I realize that now.


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 Post subject: Re: dabbling in mentalism: Past Present and Future (jay sank
PostPosted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 10:57 am 
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I am relatively new to magic and mentalism. I came across the trick Past Present and Future and loved it. Its a real gem. I've performed it twice, and got screams. Unfortunately I showed it to my father, and he completely destroyed me. He caught onto the method right away and in the middle of the trick, I said "we're done here", refusing to continue.

I feel slightly unconfident in this tricks power. It is very important to pick my spectator, but if they are very clever, should this fool them? I think that even clever people will end up analyzing the wrong aspect of the trick oblivious to the method, but apparently it didn't happen with my dad. Do you have any advice? Is this a good trick to perform in a group, if I pick the right spectator? I fear that in a group of 5-10 people one of them is bound to pick up the method. Thanks for your advice.


If you're new don't stress you are going to mess up and occasionally you are going to be figured out, my best friend knows a lot about magic as he was my guinnie pig for all my new tricks and I screwed up a lot. My advice buy a good book which tells you a lot about showmanship and presentation. 13 steps has loads hints on this kind of work. With well scripted patter, charisma and showmanship you can fool even the most skeptical of people with the simplist of tricks.

An example would be a self working affect. Most self working affects are actually quite easy to figure out with logical thinking. However if you deliever it right with good patter and timing your spectators won't know what hit them.


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 Post subject: Re: dabbling in mentalism: Past Present and Future (jay sank
PostPosted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 12:34 pm 
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arkham666 wrote:
fkace63 wrote:
I am relatively new to magic and mentalism. I came across the trick Past Present and Future and loved it. Its a real gem. I've performed it twice, and got screams. Unfortunately I showed it to my father, and he completely destroyed me. He caught onto the method right away and in the middle of the trick, I said "we're done here", refusing to continue.

I feel slightly unconfident in this tricks power. It is very important to pick my spectator, but if they are very clever, should this fool them? I think that even clever people will end up analyzing the wrong aspect of the trick oblivious to the method, but apparently it didn't happen with my dad. Do you have any advice? Is this a good trick to perform in a group, if I pick the right spectator? I fear that in a group of 5-10 people one of them is bound to pick up the method. Thanks for your advice.


If you're new don't stress you are going to mess up and occasionally you are going to be figured out, my best friend knows a lot about magic as he was my guinnie pig for all my new tricks and I screwed up a lot. My advice buy a good book which tells you a lot about showmanship and presentation. 13 steps has loads hints on this kind of work. With well scripted patter, charisma and showmanship you can fool even the most skeptical of people with the simplist of tricks.

An example would be a self working affect. Most self working affects are actually quite easy to figure out with logical thinking. However if you deliever it right with good patter and timing your spectators won't know what hit them.


Amen!

Too much people seeks for effects that has to be the cleanest and the most baffling of all... What makes a good effects is simply having something which has one simple outline which the audience can follow, which is put in context with both your persona and your presentation.

Forcing book pages with a deck of cards has no justification that doesn't make a good effect, having the audience do calculations do force a book page is not justified too.

I like simple effects, such as magician force routines, drawing duplications where everything you do make sense.

Max.


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 Post subject: thanks all for your advice
PostPosted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 10:17 am 
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I will take it upon myself to choose the proper spectators, and have decided to do this trick as a follow up to super sharpie, (they think of a number, and I reveal it). Has anyone had success with this particular trick, or the principle it uses?


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adjones wrote:
miniserb725 wrote:
And since that was a terrible attempt by Drew, I stopped keeping score. He brought it back, and now the bad 2.0 jokes will come flooding as if someone opened the gates of edited itself.


I don't think most people go what I was saying. Like, you know... Popchris doesn't have a fetish with Sankey, and Penguin 2.0 will be here in two weeks. Like two things we know aren't true. Nevermind... it doesn't make sense when you type it... I realize that now.


I understood it. Miniserb is just REALLY, REALLY slow... Actually, you both are idiots. You both are idiots with Sankey fetishes.

So... Yeah. SSS is good, buy it.


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