Gosh, what can i say after that?
Oh, wait...i know. i can just paste your own intial comment:
"You bought a dove without doing any research?!?!?! ARGH..... Doves live for like 20 years... I hope you're ready for the commitment.... Next time do some research "
So, it's okay for YOU to criticize this guy, just not for ME to do so. Okay.
Wow, great job about taking that out of context. Sure you can criticize him for buying a dove when he's not ready. Yet you were saying all magicians "abuse" their animals. I don't see how your comment can even compare. I was telling him I hope he's ready to be ready for a commitment of owning a pet “yadayada”... (Read initial post). You were saying that magicians abuse their animals. Your comment is completely irrelevant to my comment. And it makes no sense, you pulled what I said way out of context to make a point that doesn't work with what I said.
As for my 'not knowing much about animal magic'...
Well, gee. i may not know much about 'animal magic' per se, but as someone with a psychology degree, years of experience as an animal rescue and shelter volunteer, lifelong pet owner, and someone who has been involved in magic for about thirty years, i can say this much: i know firsthand of a LOT of dead doves, rabbits, and other animals who died in the name of entertainment at the hands of second- and third-rate "magicians."
I did not say you do not know about animals. You seemed to know and care a lot about animals. What I said (once again taking it out of context, you're good at this) was that you must not know much about ANIMAL MAGIC, not magic, not animals, animal magic (combing the 2 things here, there’s a difference). By saying they're abused and that they’re our props you seemed somewhat close-minded or naive to the treatment these animals get (in most, not all cases).
As for the ones that have died. If they have died because of a pathetic excuse for a magician. Let that fall on their shoulders, and may they never have an animal again. If it just be 20 years of a long happy life, what can you expect, its time must come eventually. I'm sure there are people out there who are idiots. And you can’t just say that about magicians. What about the crappy pet owners out there? So you can’t really argue your entire case on the “idiot” magicians, because you may as well go after the world for owning animals.
What I was defending was the fact that you said animal magic is abuse. In a general statement, like we’re all abusing (To hurt or injure by maltreatment) them. By no means are every magician, and any other form of animal owner/entertainer doing that. By all means criticize those who do it wrong. I agree with you in that case. Those people SHOULD NOT even own pets.
Like I said before. My post is not to sway your judgment about animal magic. You are free to your opinion, and I to mine. I just wanted to point out that there are A LOT of magicians who use animals and love their pets (not props) dearly. And it is not right to make such an extremist and general statement about it. It’s not fair to those who take loving care of there animals as if they were family.