It speaks to the mindset of the organization. When you need to give your event some "extreme" name every month, then it shows that you are reaching a bit too far and trying to be too hip.
They don't need that. They don't need to have extreme names for events to make them seem more interesting or hip or fresh. It's lame and unnecessary. It's also very WWE-ish...what's next, the UFC Regal Rumble?? UFC Fightmania?? I didn't disagree with you, I was giving a possible reason for why they do it.
You just named two fighters. For every two that you name, I can name 10 that have ridiculous nicknames. Good for you, but you said every fighter had to have a nickname, one example proves you wrong there, but I realize you didn't mean every fighter, you meant almost every fighter.
3) If you're afraid of homosexuals, that's fine by me. But you're taking his words out of context, and this leads me to believe (even if you aren't this age anymore) that you're living with a teenage boy mindset.
My best friend in high school is a homosexual. My father in law is a homosexual. I'm pretty sure I'm not afraid of homosexuals. Why you would even go this direction is beyond me.I went in that direction because you seemed to be mocking someone who made statements like that. Usually (and remember, above I said "if", I didn't say "you ARE afraid of homosexuals"), this means the person taking these words out of context is afraid of homosexuals or homosexuality in general. It's good that some of your friends are like that, and even your father in law, there's nothing wrong with it, and I've had friends who were homosexuals too. I have no problem with them.
Joe Rogan says some really homo-erotic things. Bottom line. Taken out of context?? To an extent, but that doesn't change the fact that they are extremely homo-erotic statements, now, does it?? Sure doesn't, but it also doesn't change the fact that you took them out of context.
4) Not a reason to dislike the UFC, it's a reason to dislike Bruce Buffer.
I'm sorry. I thought someone that is heavily involved in the organization IS in fact a reason to not like the organization. Let me guess...if I said I didn't like Dana White, you'd probably say "That's not a reason to dislike the UFC, it's a reason to dislike Dana White." Am I right?? Sure... I'm not a big fan of Dana White myself, but I still like the UFC
5) So they're not supposed to make money off of their sponsors? If you had people who decided to give you thousands upon thousands of dollars just so you could fight people, and train for a living, you'd go ahead and tell them that you won't put their logo on display somewhere? Good luck keeping a sponsor who would let you do that.
Of course you need to display your sponsors. I would think that showing them on your trunks, on your shirt, and on your hat are enough. Having two cronies come to the octagon with you to drape some dumb poster over the cage is just stupid. I'm glad we agree to an extent. But I'm pretty sure it's the sponsor's decision to put the poster up, not the fighter. They probably have no say in it.
6) If you want to watch pretty women, well... you've got the internet, go ahead. But the UFC is a fighting league, not a let's watch pretty women league.
It was a bit of a joke. Congratulations on taking it way too seriously. You're a sharp one.It has been said many times here, sarcasm cannot be read over the internet. And the rest of your post was serious, so how was I supposed to determine the change in tone?
7) Sure, I can agree with this. But if you're angry, watch it online if you aren't of age to go to a bar.
So, you're telling me to either go to a bar to watch it or steal it?? That's some great advice, there. The good thing about advice is, you can take it or leave it.
I don't go to bars because I'm not a big fan of being around a couple hundred "hardcore" and "extreme" young punks that think they're the next TapOut star. I also don't like bars in general.Fair enough, that's fine by me, but there are other places that show it that are less bar-ish. Some restaurants will show it.
As for watching it online?? Sorry, I prefer to pay for the products that I consume, not steal them. Good, at least you're morally correct. You don't by any chance listen to any pirated CDs? Sure it's unrelated, but its just a question. Or are you one of the people that pays for iTunes?
8) Chuck Liddell is a horrible fighter, I agree. However, again, not a reason to dislike the UFC. And besides, he's not been fighting much lately anyways. He's on his way out of the league. If not, already gone because they made him a Hall of Fame member (not that I agree with it).
At least you've got a little sense.I've got no response for this, but I do feel the insult to my intelligence (or my amount of sense) was unnecessary.
9) Absolutely false. If you watch more than 1 event, you'll notice this. I've heard Joe Rogan many times say something along the lines of "it was unbelievable that this guy just won" because he was losing for the entire fight and landed a lucky punch.
I'm not going to go into how many UFC events I've watched, but I can virtually guarantee you that I've watched more of them than you. I was watching this crap back in the mid-90s when you had to CALL your cable company to get a PPV. You couldn't just order it on a remote. That's an odd guarantee since I too have watched the pre-2000 events. The old Royce Gracie tournament style stuff was pretty cool. But then again, I didn't watch them when they aired, just much later when I became a fan of the league.
10) Rigged? How do you know they are rigged? Fights are judged based on how well you perform OVERALL. If you escape submission attempts, if you stop the guy from taking you down, if you avoid punches, if you're more active on the ground, etc. There are many things that go into the judges decisions based on a round-by-round basis. And if you can show me the fight you are referring to, then I'll believe you, but I'm pretty sure the example you gave has never happened.
So you've never watched a UFC event where a fight went to the judges and then when the winner was announced you were like "Wait, what??" I have, but does that prove it has been rigged? Probably not, just gives cause for concern.
If so, then you really haven't watched much of this at all. I'm not going to give you a specific example, because it seems to happen about once every three PPVs. If you aren't seeing it, then you really don't know what you're watching.Well then I cannot seem to accept your point. No specific example means it doesn't exist.
I'll leave you with a final remark. I know you won't change your mind or anything and there is no point in me trying to. So I won't. However, you are judging the sport unfairly based on a few people you don't like, a fear of homosexual people, and the fact that you believe something is rigged (with no proof I might add). You are 100% entitled to your opinions, but in my mind, you are being unfair and you were quick to judge. If you don't like fighting as a sport, that's fine, watch something else and don't complain. But you did even take the time to post in this thread, so that tells me something about your mentality too. Anyways, I'll leave it at that.
I'll leave you with a final remark. You're saying an awful lot about me and assuming an awful lot about me because I don't like something that you do. Sure there, I assumed you were afraid of homosexuality, I'll retract that. I posted quickly. Never meant to say that.
I guess since you know so much about me, I'll go ahead and assume some things about you. Warranted
I would guess that you're an extreme douche bag type 20-something that wears a Tap Out shirt to the gym and yells a lot. Don't own one, never will, don't go to the gym.
You probably wear awesome sunglasses and a hat that's a bit too big for you. Is that correct?? Or is assuming something about someone you don't know really ignorant?? Sure it can be, but initially I didn't completely state my assumption as fact, and that's how I intended it to remain, but I got careless.
Fear of homosexual people?? Nope, not at all. Joe Rogan says homo-erotic things...it's a fact. It's not a fact, you took them out of context. He was referring to fighting techniques and styles. But I'm sure you already know this.
That doesn't say anything at all about how I feel about or towards homosexual people. You're right.
You're fairly ignorant if you can't separate those two things. It also says something about you as a person when you take a statement that is clearly a fact and try to turn that around into an assumption about how someone else feels about a group of people. It wasn't taking a fact and turning it into an assumption. What it was, was taking a twisted set of words that someone took out of context to form a guess (sure assumption, same thing) as to their feelings towards a certain group of people.
Let me guess, if I told you that Kobe Bryant was black, you'd probably say I'm a racist...right??? Not at all. That would be fact. Not racist. Actually on that subject, everyone in your country has the right to free speech (and in mine) so you can call that race of people whatever you want to their face, and nobody can do anything about it legally. I'm not saying you're that kind of a person, but if an African American disliked it when you called him black, then he cannot stop you from doing so ever. Just a hypothetical example.
Don't like a few people?? That's a pretty fair reason to dislike something. If you didn't like the main stars of a TV show, would you watch it?? Sure, my first example is the office. I don't like the characters Dwight, Angela, Michael or Kelly on it, but I still watch it every week because it is funny. My second example, Two and a Half Men. I don't like ANY of the characters on that show, but occasionally do still watch it.Would you think it's a fair reason for disliking it??
In some cases yes.
Or would you just watch that show and be like "Well, I like it even though I hate all the characters..." I'm guessing you wouldn't watch it and think it a fairly valid reason for not liking it. In most cases, yes.
As far as it being rigged?? When even the OWNER of said league is saying that something needs to be done about poor judging decisions, then you KNOW something is wrong. Again, still not proof it is rigged. Just speculation.
It's not like just some guy on the internet is saying they've been poor decisions, it's the OWNER. If you can't understand that when the owner says something is wrong, then that means that there is something wrong, then I really don't know how to explain it to you any better. Then I still cannot accept your point as fact. But opinion doesn't have to be fact.
And just to finish this up...I've hung out a bit with Rashad Evans. I live in his hometown and hang out quite a bit where he went to college. A couple of my friends were very close with him while he was attending Michigan State University. He still lives in my hometown, and whenever he is flying out to train he goes through the airport that I work in. I regularly see him around town and am a big fan of his. I have also met quite a few of the guys that he trains with, and they all fight in the UFC as well. That sounds cool, I hope he is a nice guy, he comes off as a nice guy whenever I see him on a UFC related show.
I only add this to give you a bit of information as to what I understand and don't understand about this league and this sport. I can guarantee you that all of those assumptions that you've made about me are about as far from the truth as can be, and you shouldn't be so offended that I don't like something that you do. I'm not, I'm just saying you've been judging it for some poor reasons. Again this is my opinion.
It doesn't offend me that you do like it, but you are clearly mad (which is lame, sad, and funny all at the same time) that I don't like something that you enjoy. Get over it.I'm not mad at all, which means you clearly don't know me. I am over an argument with someone on the internet. It's just someone virtual that you're talking to. I gave my opinions in most cases, and if I were angry, I would have spoken less clearly like some of the fourteen year-olds here and probably resorted to insults. But I don't get angry very often.
I suppose my main point would be that the UFC is not turning into the WWE. Sure they have corny names, but that's the only example (from what I can see) that you gave which leads your point in that direction. From the rest (and to be fair, you did state this) you're just stating your reasons for not liking the sport. That's great, maybe you should stop watching as I have suggested previously. Especially after having watched way more fights than I have (a personal guarantee from you). That's what I usually do when I stop liking something, I stop supporting it (not that you ever said you still do). But if you're willing to stop the assumption train as much as I am, then I'll stop right here. I leave the rest of this thread to be either locked, picked apart, or to go on its intended direction and to talk about how people liked/disliked this particular fight.