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 Post subject: to young
PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 12:24 pm 
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is ten years old to young for escapes


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 1:08 pm 
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No its not.

But there is more to it than just age.
You need to be failry mature, have common sense, great presentation skills, drive, people that are willing to help, equipment, a good study habit, money, and more.

Before you "dive" into escapes, ask yourself why, and think hard about it. Escapes arent for every one.


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 5:48 pm 
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thanks you answered my question in the pickpocketing section to


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the person who taught me pick pocketing was greg wilson (indirectly through On the Spot). Misdirection is the Key to pickpocketing (and watch stealing, however i recommend you pickup the mini course in watch stealing just to see how t take of the watch)


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No way i am 10, i have done a mail bag escape at a talent show, escaped a straight jack lots of time and more if i can you can :)


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not much of an escapist but why would age matter?


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One word... Believability


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Children can make bad judgements. I heard James Randi talk in an interview once about a young boy who wrote him frequently. He wrote about the major escape stunt that he was planning on doing - an underwater handcuff escape with no real training. Randi wrote back to him telling him the stunt was a bad idea. The boy ignored him and one day when his parents went to the shops he got into his wet suit and cuffed himself to the foot of his bed. There was complications and he was unable to pick the lock. The wetsuit caused him to dehydrate and he died, alone, handcuffed to his bed.
Children can make bad judgements.


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Yes, kids can make bad judgements, but so can adults.
I've seen plenty of kids perform escapes and be succesful.
Devon Owens did a mailbag escape http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Qk3Z7zMXGg
And kids are also perfectly capable of doing Metamorphosis. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOVp1bizHwc

I see no problems with a 10-year-old doing escapeology as long as they keep safety in mind and have a parent present when they're practicing.


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 Post subject: Re: to young
PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 6:54 pm 
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It's not "Children vs. Adults, who's Dumber" OK. Put simply escapes are dangerous PERIOD. If you or your child are planning on escaping you need to get all the info you can get and start small. No matter who you are.


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 Post subject: Re: to young
PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 11:05 pm 
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That's a gross oversimplification(Yes, I responded to use those words in public.). Escapes in themselves aren't dangerous. I use the Kellar Rope Tie and know guys that use the 100 Ft Rope/Chain escapes as well as numerous other escapes. Escapology is only dangerous if you don't pay attention to the inherent dangers in the bigger escapes. It's unlikely that someone that takes the proper care in preparing will actually be seriously hurt. The problem comes when people with no training, no instructors, and no safeties to watch them and make sure they're safe. In 98% of situations, you shouldn't practice escapes on your own. In most of them, you can't practice on your own. If you use common sense, you'll be fine.


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 Post subject: Re: to young
PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 5:17 pm 
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Escapes can be done by kids to great effect. I'm the mentor for a magic club at the school I teach at. We put on a little show that includes handcuffs, sub trunk, spirit cabinet, and straight jacket. Some of these use escape principles for magic effects and others are presented as an escape. The Straight jacket gets a huge reaction as the audience will really empathize with the underdog. Houdini realized this and always made sure to get the biggest cops he could find to restrain him.

DO: Practice under adult supervision, perform under adult supervision.
DON"T: do water escapes, upside down escapes, or buried alive escapes.
Being a kid you won't need to go to such extremes to get good reactions. Furthermore, you might turn off many audience members as they sit their thinking "What kind of parents would let their child do such a thing!" In fact, weather you are a child or an adult, you don't need to be performing an escape in my don't column as long as you are an amateur. Those are the escapes that should be left to the professionals only.


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