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PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2005 7:26 pm 
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A month is enough time to get the sponge balls down. Just get a nice little skit together with it like anything else.


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Thanks to everyone who helped. I'm going to be ordering it either Saturday or Monday. If anyone still has any suggestions. I'm still open.


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ScottO wrote:
Okay well the web, for children, i don't think so. The others sound fine.

that seems a little to intense for kids


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sluggo wrote:
I'm with Michael & Kyle, this guy CC has given some of the worst advice on kid shows. I'd say his experience if any is next to none.


I think he would be an okay guy if he would quit jumping off the deep end by giving advice about things he knows nothing about...But yes...CC, we can tell your experience by the advice you give(just a warning). We are not stupid!


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I've also decided to get the Penguin cups & balls, & Carl Andrew Table Hopping Cups & Balls. Are the kids able to see cups & balls at a show.


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Here are some things you might consider adding

Penguin Cups ( or any other cups with a good routine)
Magic Temple
Slush Powder
MOUTH COILS!!!!!!!! (Jumbo)
Any simple card manipulation effects that can be seen from stage. Ex. (Jeff McBride DvDs)
Anything with flash paper
Appearing/vanishing cane
Sponge Balls
Joker Tube

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2005 3:32 pm 
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majikaldood wrote:
Here are some things you might consider adding

Penguin Cups ( or any other cups with a good routine)
Magic Temple
Slush Powder
MOUTH COILS!!!!!!!! (Jumbo)
Any simple card manipulation effects that can be seen from stage. Ex. (Jeff McBride DvDs)
Anything with flash paper
Appearing/vanishing cane
Sponge Balls
Joker Tube

Alex


Flash paper is a bad idea. You DO NOT want to mix fire with kids.


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I wasn't going to get flash paper. It's expensive if you want a lot.


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Flash paper is okay, I have never had a problem with it and kidshows. BUT it all depends on the way you use it and whether or not a message is attatched to the trick.


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Orlando1991 wrote:
I've also decided to get the Penguin cups & balls, & Carl Andrew Table Hopping Cups & Balls. Are the kids able to see cups & balls at a show.


(From my experience) Young kids don't fully understand some aspects of the cups & balls. Having said that, you still get a good reaction with the surprise ending. But for the most part they don't understand!

If you have a fairly easy to understand routine and something they can follow it should go down ok. Another idea is to add a story to your routine, this would make it more interesting and easier to follow.

Carl Andrews - Table hopping cups & balls.
In this DVD Carl teaches his Cups & Balls and sponge ball routine. I don't think either of these routines are suitable for kids and therefore don't recommend this DVD. (the routines are for adults) What you learn is a routine, not the principal of the cups and balls.

(Example: If I want to play the piano should I learn a tune or should I learn the keys? If I learn a tune I will be able to play that one tune, but if I learn the keys I will be able to play many tunes).

Do you see what I mean? The same goes for magic, if you learn the fundamentals you can do many routines (even create your own) if you learn a routine you can do just that one routine.

If you want to perform cups & balls get something like: Michael Ammar - Cups & Balls. This will go through most of the fundamentals and a few routines!


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I hope you haven't ordered yet!!!

If you have enough money get one of David Ginn's books! If you don't have enough money scrap your order and get the book.

This is the best thing I can recommend and if you take my advice you will thank me.

Does anyone back me up?

www.ginnmagic.com


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Thanks, & no, haven't ordered yet. But will soon. Thanks.


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I suggest buying one of these books, reading it and then decided what to buy. You will save money this way. As for the likes of sponge balls or TT you can't go wrong buying them!

The books I recommend are called:
1. Professional magic for children
2. Crash course on kids shows
3. Kid Biz

These books will give you a lot of very valuable information, everything from:
How to put a show together
How to routine your show
what tricks are good
comedy to make kids laugh
David's routines
(the list goes on)

I had many question before I got these books, now I am actually giving other people advice. These books have brought me a long way.

At first I was kind of thinking, a book! I am not much of a reader, but then I said they must be good if all the working professionals recommend them and believe me they are excellent. Once I started reading I was hooked, which leaded to me buying the other books.

The outcome to these books for me is a, great knowledge of kids entertainment, a good show I put together after reading and most important understanding what kids like and how to keep control.

Mike


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paddy wrote:
The Web is NOT a trick that shoud be used at all!!! What if you did that to an older lady that, unbeknownst to you, was TERRIFIED of spiders, you pull that and she faints, or worse, has a heart attack.

Yes it COULD happen. Another reason for liability insurance thru either SAM or IBM. (websites to organizations available on Google)


Not the way Jim does it. I saw him do it, pure laughter. And by the way, all tricks can be kids tricks, it's all in the presentation.


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Wow man, you should give yourself more time. Don't just get a bunch of gimmicks. If you do this then there will be no routine. It'll just be "Hey here is a pen through a dollar" , "Look! The pictures in this coloring book are colored now", "Check this out, I can make a dollar bill float"

My advice would be to find tricks similar to eachother. I have no experience with kids shows, but I have performed for family. Figure out a way to glide into the next trick.

For example, you could do the basic cups and balls trick, and at the end have sponge balls come out of the cups. Then you make 3 sponge balls turn into 1 giant one in a kids hand. And then make the sponge ball float.

I just made that up, I'm not sure what kids that age enjoy, but just try to include them in the trick. I know they love that because of my 5 year old nephew!

Hope that helps.


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