I am sorry you did not relize I was genuenly trying to be polite and see if you could show me a better way so I dont hurt myself every time I do this . thinking you would humanly give another magician some help. sorry you took it wrong.

Okay, I skimmed the thread(no pun intended) and I just want to say that I hope you take my advice, as I can attest to the fact that I know what I'm talking about.

First of all, thread from stomach does NOT use the same method as Saw. Whoever said that, that's not a good assumption on your part. Saw and Needle Through Arm by Harry Anderson are pseudo-effects that give an illusion of what is really happening.

The effect that blaine did can be found in Swami AND Mantra, which is not a book, but a collection of old magazines compiled together. It is not sold to minors, because, here's the kicker, it's dangerous, and very real.

Trust me, I don't think you want to perform thread from stomach, unless you like pain.

|| sean ||

There is also a non-dangerous version.

I know of the version you mention, and the much safer version.

I heard that the dangrous version is more effective and more commonly used. Blaine and Angel both use the dangerous version according to my knowledge.

But thanks for pointing that out, I had forgotten about that. : )

|| sean ||

Actually you have to be 21