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 Post subject: And All will be Consumed by Christopher Wiehl
PostPosted: Thu Jul 28, 2011 4:51 am 
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Does anybody know if you can have a a borrowed glass beer bottle and what is the biggest object you could use could you use a mobile phone if so could it be borrowed


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 Post subject: Re: And All will be Consumed by Christopher Wiehl
PostPosted: Thu Jul 28, 2011 10:12 am 
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This seems to use an old principle. I it does, the size of the object depends on the bottle. A beer bottle would allow for only very small objects to penetrate (if I'm correct) some water bottles and Gatorade bottles will allow for larger objects. I would say no on the cell phone. Again, this is all speculation assuming it still has the same attributes as the original principle he added to.


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 Post subject: Re: And All will be Consumed by Christopher Wiehl
PostPosted: Thu Jul 28, 2011 10:45 am 
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I was wondering if this is what dynamo has been using for his show where he puts a phone in am bottle


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 Post subject: Re: And All will be Consumed by Christopher Wiehl
PostPosted: Thu Jul 28, 2011 1:38 pm 
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With all due respect to the trick and its creator does the world really need another bottle penetration trick?
It's my understanding that function nine has a perfectly good bottle penetration trick, sure it might not be as versatile as this one, I don't know because I don't know either method but it seems to me that you can shell out for this dvd and get the one trick or you can pay a bit more and get a similar effect and 11 others from what I've been told. And for the record I'm not even a fan of Calen Morelli.

Simply put what is the difference between a coin going into a bottle or a pen? Why should you need to be able to pass any small object into a bottle at all? It's one effect that isn't going to take up that much time in your close up set so why should it matter?

Shouldn't magicians be focusing on creating something completely new instead of just coming up with a new way to rehash something we've seen a million times over?


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 Post subject: Re: And All will be Consumed by Christopher Wiehl
PostPosted: Thu Jul 28, 2011 1:52 pm 
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Arkham, the beautiful thing is that we live in a free market. If people want ____ in bottle effects, then new and improved ones will continue to come out.

So as a consumer, there's never a need to stress about "too many XXX tricks coming out".

The evolution of magic is a wonderful thing. It's always been this way, the only difference is now with the internet you get a front row seat to all the action.

"And All Will Be Consumed" is brilliant. The gimmick makes me smile, and I admire anyone who helps push our art forward.

On a related note, some very creative people maintain that "Nothing is new." Everything is derivative and/or evolutionary. They would say that if you don't think so, you simply don't know enough of the history.

Acar


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 Post subject: Re: And All will be Consumed by Christopher Wiehl
PostPosted: Thu Jul 28, 2011 3:02 pm 
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It's rare that I watch the video for a trick and immediately after buy it. I did with this.

I haven't posted on this forum in years. I just had to say something.

I've never had a bottle penetration effect so this will be new and exciting for me. Can't wait.


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 Post subject: Re: And All will be Consumed by Christopher Wiehl
PostPosted: Thu Jul 28, 2011 5:15 pm 
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I think this is a good product to release. If the method is what it looks like it can be done impromptu (slightly differently of course), with a number of different objects very cleanly, based on something you most likely already use regularly for a very different purpose. After seeing the teaser I thought it was another crappy, unnecessary coin in bottle, but seeing the trailer it seems to be so much more. I probably will buy this.


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 Post subject: Re: And All will be Consumed by Christopher Wiehl
PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 12:49 am 
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also calen morellis requires a pre setup bottle and is not as practical as this one


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 Post subject: Re: And All will be Consumed by Christopher Wiehl
PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 5:52 am 
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jonathan_thegreat wrote:
also calen morellis requires a pre setup bottle and is not as practical as this one


This too requires "set-up"....quick as stated :)


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 Post subject: Re: And All will be Consumed by Christopher Wiehl
PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 11:35 am 
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Well, more of an additive ingredient than a "setup". So a bit more flexible.


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 Post subject: Re: And All will be Consumed by Christopher Wiehl
PostPosted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 1:08 am 
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Hey everyone!
thanks for checking out "and all will be consumed". alot of work has gone into this product and i am glad to share it with the magic community! if you have any questions just ask me!


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 Post subject: Re: And All will be Consumed by Christopher Wiehl
PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 7:49 am 
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Very nice D.V.D. with some good ideas. Glad I got this.


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 Post subject: Re: And All will be Consumed by Christopher Wiehl
PostPosted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 10:42 am 
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thanks! glad you enjoy it! there is a private forum for AAWBC where you can discuss ideas and ask questions!


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 Post subject: Re: And All will be Consumed by Christopher Wiehl
PostPosted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 11:46 pm 
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also, if you did get the dvd from penguin check out the private section on the forums for those who did buy it! i posted up some extra tricks and tips!
also if you didnt buy this from penguin and you did from another source, just send me a picture of you holding the dvd and gimmick and i'll send you links for the tips and tricks :-)
hope this helps you all out!


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