Thank you one and all for your help thus far with EVERYTHING!(Despite the fact that I haven't helped you out very much) And now once again I seek the help of the round table... What book\video\web page\magician do I have to go to too find out how to "produce" a dove from a silk or in some cases seran wrap. It's clean, quick, and just awesome!!! But where do I go to learn it? I'm just breaking into this wonderful world of STAGE magic. I've to date only done up close and street stuff. So again, as always your help is appreciated.

Go to google.com and do a search for "dove magic"....you'll find some stuff there.

You can get the tapes 'I Dove You Truly I & II' by Kendrick 'Ice' McDonald. They are great.