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PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 7:53 pm 
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Howdy Folks...

Does any one know of a Chop Cup that looks like a common object? (not the tennis ball hold either...a tube for one tennis ball?)

Would it be simpler (& cheaper) to modify a dixie cup, or styro cup to make it look normal?

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You could just use a normal cup and a PK ring or a TT with a ma***t in it.


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ayli wrote:
You could just use a normal cup and a PK ring or a TT with a ma***t in it.


whats up with ma***t why the stars ?!


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shteig613 wrote:
ayli wrote:
You could just use a normal cup and a PK ring or a TT with a ma***t in it.


whats up with ma***t why the stars ?!


Not to expose the secret behind the Chop Cup.


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ayli wrote:
shteig613 wrote:
ayli wrote:
You could just use a normal cup and a PK ring or a TT with a ma***t in it.


whats up with ma***t why the stars ?!


Not to expose the secret behind the Chop Cup.


:shock: fine you got me


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You can buy a chop cup which looks like a regular ceramic coffee mug with a handle. You can buy a chop cup which looks like a bartender's jigger. You can purchase chop cups which look like leather dice cups (I have two). There are a few more variants out there, though I've only had the need to look into the ones I've listed above.


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Here's a Chop Mug if that's what you're looking for.



Mike


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Thanks for the suggestions, I think I'll work on something along what Ayli was saying, except not the ring, because I don't want to have contact with it for the whole time...well...maybe it would work.

I am thinking of it as more of a billet switch device, than a cups and balls routine. The chop mug would certainly not look like a magic prop, but would not fit in a stand up show.


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Ruse wrote:
Thanks for the suggestions, I think I'll work on something along what Ayli was saying, except not the ring, because I don't want to have contact with it for the whole time...well...maybe it would work.

I am thinking of it as more of a billet switch device, than a cups and balls routine. The chop mug would certainly not look like a magic prop, but would not fit in a stand up show.


The reason I've never bought a chop cup was because of how "gimmicky" it looks. Just like cups and balls, but I perform that at most of my shows. I think the chop mug would be a good investment for anyone. You could also make the performance look impromptu.


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Ruse, now that I know what you want it for, it changes things. You could just get a normal looking cup, and use a PK ring like Uriel was saying. I think that a PK ring would be a lot easier in the long run that the TT with the "gimmick." How do you plan on getting the billet able to work with the PK ring though?


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That's the easy part. If you use business card stock, you can split it like you do a playing card. Otherwise just dropping the right *something* into it as it's folded works too. Wadded up dollar bills have been done this way ever since Nicholas Night's "Enigma."

He also said he wanted to not handle the cup during part of it, which makes a ring not work so well.

Even a coffee cup would be out of place in certain presentations, so if we knew more specifically the performance requirements we could work on gaffing something appropriate.


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So it would have to be an opaque cup, would have to test strength of gimmick with thickness of bottom of the cup/container (pen holder?)

You place a prediction in the cup (mouth is facing up) casually toss the prediction into the cup, when you need to switch, you "dump" the billet out...

So the ring would only be needed for the actual switch, not the display. Of course I wouldn't put on a ring just prior to picking up the cup.

A-HA moment! This would make it a lot easier to perform "Twin Prediction" (in Annemann).

Does the opaqeness of the cup, defeat the purpose of having it on display?

"I'll put it inside the cup, so I can't touch it" ---well we can't see it, so who knows what is happening to it.


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