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 Post subject: Fire magic trick for my dad
PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 10:36 pm 
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My dad wants to buy something he can do at a wedding that is visual, can be done surrounded, and has to do with fire. I was thinking about lending him my flame tip, but that is a little angle sensitive. Keep in mind that he isn't magically inclined, so has to be pretty much self working.

Any recommendations are appreciated.


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 11:11 pm 
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So why?

IF he doesnt even dabble in magic... why?

Fire is dangerous, not something to play with. I would hope your father knows that. "Fire Magic" isnt self working... it will take work on more than one level.

If he is set on it... flash paper.


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 5:21 pm 
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Why is he wanting to do this?


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 11:14 pm 
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Get him a Kaps on Fire Wallet. Even if he doesn't utilize the 2nd use of the wallet, at least the 8" flames turned into money will get their attention. Takes no skill to master.


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 8:21 am 
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I'm gonna go ahead and say, to prevent injury, I wouldn't give a non-magician fire unless I really wanted to hurt him. Have him do a rose production or something. His fiance would love that.


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 11:57 am 
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There are several things wrong with that. Since when is a non-magician automatically clumsy about handling fire? Are we somehow "special?" A kid with a Penguin account is automatically trained where his father (a fireman for all we know...) is not???

And, we don't know if his father even has a fiance. We don't know if he's the one getting married. Maybe he wants to do something at a friend's wedding? The original post doesn't say one way or another.

We have to stop making blind assumptions like this.

For the record, I think it's a bad idea too, but without knowing what his dad is planning to do we really can't give an intelligent answer.


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Assumptions? Blind?
What else am are we too assume? We are given very little info, like usual.
So Of course most of us, will assume "to the far left."

I wouldnt recommened fire magic to 97% of the people I know, in the magic or lay world.

So one would think; if I tell "magicians" to stay away from it, why would I tell a lay person to go out and "play" with it.
Fire is fire! Period. Its dangerous... even flash pads.

And an un-trained, un practiced, "performer" with fire (even flash pads) can cause a lot of damage to others or himself.


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DtC, for the record, I'm not one of "you people"

I agree with you on the damage aspect of fire, and wouldn't encourage anyone to use it unless they knew what they were doing.

All I was doing was pointing out the obvious; that the original poster didn't give us enough to go on, and others have made assumptions without knowing the facts.

In other words, pretty much what I expected. :roll:


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 9:05 pm 
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After reading all your replies here's some more info:
-He would be doing something at a friends wedding.
-My father is 55 years old, and plenty responsible with fire.
-He's not doing a stage show, all he wants to do is while people are doing things for the bride and groom (cartwheels, swallowing fire, etc.) - he wants to do something for like 30 seconds. I.E - at my brother's wedding I did a flame to flower.


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Many fire effects take practice... something simple might be match to flower; seems you already know that, so why not let him do that.

I really dont see why he has to do anything like this period... if its not in his normal style; might come off kinda off, in my opinion.

Funny that you listed fire swallowing... I highly recommend that for an untrained person to attempt. :roll:

to do is while people are doing things for the bride and groom (cartwheels....)
What kind of weddings do you people throw? :?

People generally people dont start the cart wheels until after the wedding and have had a few too many...

As my parents used to tell me; K.I.S.S- keep it simple stupid.

Like mouth coils or appearing/dying flowers.


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 9:53 pm 
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Dying flowers!! That's funny!!!

Anyway, flame to flower would be good, just make sure he has enough practice. I'm not saying you're father won't be able to do it, I'm just saying flame magic is...dangerous.


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 10:04 pm 
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I meant by the wedding while people are dancing, the bride and groom sit down on chairs and people do cool (kinda weird) things. Like juggling, break dancing, and a cartwheel here and there.


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 3:14 pm 
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I haven't gotten this but it looks like a cool idea

http://www.penguinmagic.com/specialorderproduct.php?ID=5055

That's Cane Fire by Michael Lair for people (like me) who are too lazy to click on the link to see what it is :D

Another thing to add onto it (although I'm not sure if it's possible, it might be a completely different trick) is after you make it appear to make it into a dancing cane.


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If you love your dad and don't want to see him in a burn unit or getting sued...forget the fire idea. K, thanks.


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