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 Post subject: Seriously Silly, Volume1&2 Of Tarbel course Or Strong Magic?
PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 8:41 am 
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what book helps you more as a performer? will strong magic help you control children? what about volumes 1&2 of tarbell?


i might be getting ONE of them soon(or two if its the tarbell first two books), and i don't know which to chose.

i know ultimately i have to decide, but i can always use a little help.:D


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 Post subject: Re: Seriously Silly, Or Strong Magic?
PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 9:27 am 
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To be a better "performer", I'd suggest books that are going to go over theory of magic. Being a good performer is far more than knowing a few tricks or even knowing alot of tricks. It's putting everything together smoothly. If you are into card magic, I'd highly suggest the first two volumes of Card College to start with. The second volume touches more on theory at the end and I've never learned more about what it is to be a good performer than in that chapter. It will also give you enough technical knowledge to get you started. It also references alot of other books that I think are must reads to help with some of the finer aspects of being a great magician (Ie: Influencing people). Some of those extra books also help in just about every other aspect of life in general.

If I am not mistaken, there is a book specifically about magic theory called "The Art of Magic"? Someone will hopefully correct me if I'm wrong.

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 Post subject: Re: Seriously Silly, Or Strong Magic?
PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 9:40 am 
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ArchAngel_G wrote:
To be a better "performer", I'd suggest books that are going to go over theory of magic. Being a good performer is far more than knowing a few tricks or even knowing alot of tricks. It's putting everything together smoothly. If you are into card magic, I'd highly suggest the first two volumes of Card College to start with. The second volume touches more on theory at the end and I've never learned more about what it is to be a good performer than in that chapter. It will also give you enough technical knowledge to get you started. It also references alot of other books that I think are must reads to help with some of the finer aspects of being a great magician (Ie: Influencing people). Some of those extra books also help in just about every other aspect of life in general.

If I am not mistaken, there is a book specifically about magic theory called "The Art of Magic"? Someone will hopefully correct me if I'm wrong.

-ArchAngel_G



Um, did you look those two books up?
strong magic, is ABOUT getting better reactions, THUS, being a better performer.
I believe seriously silly is also about being a better performer.


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 Post subject: Re: Seriously Silly, Volume1&2 Of Tarbel course Or Strong Magic?
PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 9:51 am 
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That's like asking if a PB & J illusion or Triumph is a better trick. They're geared towards different things. If you want to learn about structuring all magic, but more for close-up, get strong magic. If you want to learn about kids, get Seriously Silly.

Tarbell Vol. 1 has some good history in it though...

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 Post subject: Re: Seriously Silly, Volume1&2 Of Tarbel course Or Strong Magic?
PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 9:53 am 
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I read that tarbell volume 2 has some stuff on audience control.


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 Post subject: Re: Seriously Silly, Volume1&2 Of Tarbel course Or Strong Magic?
PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 12:15 pm 
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No matter what you buy, DO NOT read it cover to cover and stick it on your bookshelf to collect dust.

First, write down your top 5 effects.
Next, after each chapter, write down a SUMMARY of the ideas and advice, and see how you can apply it to one (or all) of your effects.
And finally, modify the effect and get it ready to perform with the new stuff. And go do it on several people.

It will take you many months to finish the book, but when you do, YOU'RE GOLDEN.


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 Post subject: Re: Seriously Silly, Volume1&2 Of Tarbel course Or Strong Magic?
PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 12:33 pm 
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Wow, thanks! i know what you would recommend! strong magic!( I think so anyway, haha :lol: )


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 Post subject: Re: Seriously Silly, Volume1&2 Of Tarbel course Or Strong Magic?
PostPosted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 7:19 am 
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Well, will Strong Magic help me get screams?


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 Post subject: Re: Seriously Silly, Volume1&2 Of Tarbel course Or Strong Magic?
PostPosted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 10:03 am 
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magicianandyoyoer wrote:
Well, will Strong Magic help me get screams?


It will if you are reading it barefoot and it slips out of your hands.


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 Post subject: Re: Seriously Silly, Volume1&2 Of Tarbel course Or Strong Magic?
PostPosted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 10:32 am 
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I love failed attempts at being funny.


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 Post subject: Re: Seriously Silly, Volume1&2 Of Tarbel course Or Strong Magic?
PostPosted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 11:36 am 
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magicianandyoyoer wrote:
Well, will Strong Magic help me get screams?


Reactions are based upon trick quality, appropriateness to the venue, social value, experience, social expectations, performance, environment and many other things.

A fire trick for a league of drunk 20yo girls in a bar, when they already like you, and heard screams from your last spectators - is more likely to get screams than the 60yo man after Catholic church service that doesn't like you and hates magic.

Rough example, but you get the idea.

Strong Magic is a huge leap forward in many of those areas, but definitely not a one-stop solution.


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 Post subject: Re: Seriously Silly, Volume1&2 Of Tarbel course Or Strong Magic?
PostPosted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 11:57 am 
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Gotcha, another question, me being in eighth grade, do you think i could really get much from it?


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 Post subject: Re: Seriously Silly, Volume1&2 Of Tarbel course Or Strong Magic?
PostPosted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 1:07 pm 
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More knowledge will always help you at every level. Even if you don't like the book, you'll know performance things you shouldn't do.

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 Post subject: Re: Seriously Silly, Volume1&2 Of Tarbel course Or Strong Magic?
PostPosted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 1:11 pm 
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Thanks.:)


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