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 Post subject: Wich marker to use for marking a card tricks?
PostPosted: Mon May 27, 2013 1:06 pm 
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I'd just wanted to know wich marker or what kind to use for expample the ambisious card trick.

I don't really feel like f@cking up my decks for these tricks writing on the cards with markers. How can i erase the ink for instance without erasing the face of the card itself?

Or is that just bad luck for the magician?( and so you need to stack up decks of cards?)


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 Post subject: Re: Wich marker to use for marking a card tricks?
PostPosted: Mon May 27, 2013 4:55 pm 
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There really isn't a way to mark a card and have it come off. Plus, when you have a spectator mark a card, you usually let them keep the card anyway.
For practicing, I have heard of people putting tape or a sticker on the card and writing on those. Then just take off the sticker and you have a normal deck to use.
The only possible marker that I can think of is a pen called a Frixion pen. You can write on something and by putting it up to a light, the heat will make the ink invisible (or something). However, I think that using the pen may make an imprint in the card, so it may not work too well.
It's best to just suck it up and buy replacement cards. You can have many cards removed from the pack without the spectator noticing that it's not a full deck. You could also have a few extra decks which you take cards out of to replace the missing cards in your main deck.
Just a few thoughts, Drew


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 Post subject: Re: Wich marker to use for marking a card tricks?
PostPosted: Mon May 27, 2013 4:56 pm 
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You can also just force a card which you know you have a replacement for. It give you practice with a force without the consequence of missing it and it will allow you to replenish the deck once done.


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 Post subject: Re: Wich marker to use for marking a card tricks?
PostPosted: Mon May 27, 2013 5:46 pm 
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Ok so you'll allways be screwing up your deck? time to bulk some bicycles then!


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 Post subject: Re: Wich marker to use for marking a card tricks?
PostPosted: Mon May 27, 2013 7:21 pm 
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That's why there's Cosco ;)


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 Post subject: Re: Wich marker to use for marking a card tricks?
PostPosted: Tue May 28, 2013 4:51 am 
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any aerosol deodorant can partially remove a signature on a card. I dont see it as a problem, most of my deck has multiple signatures on each card.


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 Post subject: Re: Wich marker to use for marking a card tricks?
PostPosted: Tue May 28, 2013 6:10 am 
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Destroying a card each time is the cost of doing business. Many magicians just keep using the same deck over and over again with the previous marks (signature) still on them (such as bartender). It's just not practical to use a brand new deck each time.

There is another angle and that would be to use plastic cards, they're almost identical and unless you're told up front you might not even be able to tell the difference. They're a little more expensive but they last forever! With these plastic cards you might be able to use a DRY-ERASE MARKER which will allow you to wipe off the signature after each effect. On the down side the signature might rub off while handling the deck before the revelation.

Do what most magicians do; stick with one kind of deck (such as red Bicycles) and save every deck you've ever owned. This way you'll be able to make up decks from all the cards you've saved (it also comes in real handy for making your own force decks). For pick-a-card tricks it doesn't even matter if the deck is correct (meaning, one of each card) just as long as you have 52 cards.

You'll learn these little tricks to save money and cards as you progress in your magic career or hobby. Listen to these old guys, even if you're not part of the conversation, they have some very interesting wisdom to impart.


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 Post subject: Re: Wich marker to use for marking a card tricks?
PostPosted: Tue May 28, 2013 11:43 am 
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swayze wrote:
There is another angle and that would be to use plastic cards, they're almost identical and unless you're told up front you might not even be able to tell the difference. They're a little more expensive but they last forever! With these plastic cards you might be able to use a DRY-ERASE MARKER which will allow you to wipe off the signature after each effect. On the down side the signature might rub off while handling the deck before the revelation.


What plastic cards are you talking about? The ones that I have aren't actually usable in card magic.


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 Post subject: Re: Wich marker to use for marking a card tricks?
PostPosted: Tue May 28, 2013 12:05 pm 
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I've got plastic Bicycle cards that came out a couple years ago, I can barely tell the difference. I am speaking of actual plastic cards, not plastic coated cards, which are normal Bicycle cards.

You might try a dry erase marker on regular Bicycle cards, let me know if it works for you. I don't think I've ever experimanted with this idea but it might work.

If you really need to stick with regular Bicycle cards you might take the other guys advice and force the card you need signed. If you had a seperate pinochle deck you'd have multiple duplicates you could change out after each performance for your regular deck.


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 Post subject: Re: Wich marker to use for marking a card tricks?
PostPosted: Tue May 28, 2013 3:29 pm 
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All great advice so far....

Another option that has served me well is to buy cards from a casino. They use the cards for a few hours and they need new ones to avoid people from cheating. You can get them for as little as .20 cents a deck. I buy a hundered decks for $20 and then you can make your own specialty decks i.e. Invisible Decks, One way force decks, Tossed out decks, all sorts of uses for them and you wont feel bad about destroying cards with signatures or torn and restored effects.


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 Post subject: Re: Wich marker to use for marking a card tricks?
PostPosted: Tue May 28, 2013 5:57 pm 
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edrezin wrote:
All great advice so far....

Another option that has served me well is to buy cards from a casino. They use the cards for a few hours and they need new ones to avoid people from cheating. You can get them for as little as .20 cents a deck. I buy a hundered decks for $20 and then you can make your own specialty decks i.e. Invisible Decks, One way force decks, Tossed out decks, all sorts of uses for them and you wont feel bad about destroying cards with signatures or torn and restored effects.


The only downside of this is that the Casinos usually cut the corners of their cards and use borderless (Bee) decks. This does affect certain tricks.


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 Post subject: Re: Wich marker to use for marking a card tricks?
PostPosted: Wed May 29, 2013 12:52 pm 
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When I was doing table hopping, I would figure at least one new deck of cards per gig into my asking price. You can't go wrong with that...and you should end up with hundreds of cards in good condition, with which to make gaffs, card warp, signed card effects, etc.


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 Post subject: Re: Wich marker to use for marking a card tricks?
PostPosted: Thu May 30, 2013 7:29 pm 
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Answers i've been looking for! Thanks guys! :mrgreen:


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 Post subject: Re: Wich marker to use for marking a card tricks?
PostPosted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 3:23 pm 
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I avoid marking my cards at all.


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