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 Post subject: restaurant or magic store?
PostPosted: Fri Apr 30, 2004 8:39 pm 
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I was at a restaurant tonight where they have a magician doing table to table and waiting area routines. If you like what you see, guess what, you can see his assistant at a booth near the cash register and buy the effects. TTs, brainwave decks, Newton's nightmare and more out on display and for sale. Not a good idea to me.


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 Post subject: Re: restaurant or magic store?
PostPosted: Fri Apr 30, 2004 9:01 pm 
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evilgenius wrote:
I was at a restaurant tonight where they have a magician doing table to table and waiting area routines. If you like what you see, guess what, you can see his assistant at a booth near the cash register and buy the effects. TTs, brainwave decks, Newton's nightmare and more out on display and for sale. Not a good idea to me.


Well, profitable for the magician doing the pitching.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 30, 2004 9:01 pm 
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Yeah, I agree. Thats more of a salesperson than a magician.


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PostPosted: Sat May 01, 2004 10:58 am 
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Sounds like he's more interested in making money than the actual magic itself.

If you ask me, thats a good way to lose credit and respect for what he's doing.
It's just a way of making quick money, whilst, ins some ways, exposing effects to people who will never touch the effect again, or perform it without practicing.

On the other hand though, I am probably being a bit harsh and biassed :roll: ; what he's doing could spark of someones interest into the world of magic aswell.


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PostPosted: Sat May 01, 2004 5:37 pm 
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that sucks. that is how all of the magic secrets are being revealed!


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Svengali pitches have been used for decades. It exposes nothing. You've probably all seen them done by Street Magicians at fairs, flea markets, farmers markets. Doing it inside a restaurant is just another venue, and a way that someone can make a career out of magic.

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i think its better not to sell the tricks he just performed...


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PostPosted: Sat May 01, 2004 8:42 pm 
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it s like i wanna ruin my buisness. unless he sells brainwave for like 25$


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wat do u mean?


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PostPosted: Sat May 01, 2004 8:51 pm 
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he'll ruin his buisness.. the people will be like i can do that... but if he charges like 30$ for brainwave thenhe can make more money and not many people would buy it and not as many people would know the secret


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oh, ok


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he'll ruin his buisness.. the people will be like i can do that... but if he charges like 30$ for brainwave thenhe can make more money and not many people would buy it and not as many people would know the secret


Assuming that 100% of the people he performs for are the only customers the restaurant has, and that every one of them buys a deck, and the restaurant does not pay him, and he doesn't work for tips.

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PostPosted: Sun May 02, 2004 12:46 am 
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You folks should remember that, real workers acts consists of more than a svengali deck and a pair of d'lights. Selling magic like this is nothing new.

The "old school" street workers would do it all the time but I rarly see it from those performers anymore for some reason. Probably because of that silly code we believe in.


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PostPosted: Sun May 02, 2004 5:41 pm 
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exactly. Anything I do in performance is generally never something that is sold at a mall kiosk, such as a svengali, d'lites, whatever. Sure, virtually every prop I have or video I learned from is at a magic store or available online. I don't worry about this. If someone is that interested, they're no longer the general public. Also, magic is about presentation and performance, not method. Who cares if someone knows you have a svengali deck if you do the most entertaining routine with it?


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PostPosted: Sun May 02, 2004 6:38 pm 
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Most every Las Vegas Magician has some sort of magic "shop" outside his stage. They are just trying to make a bit of cash.

I don't agree with it, but it happens.


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