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 Post subject: What tricks do I need
PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2005 1:32 pm 
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What tricks do I need to get / learn for table hopping?
Any tricks on penguin worth getting or any DVDs?

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A word of advice, before you even think about table hopping read some books, watch a few DVDs, then pick out a few effects/tricks that appeal to you and then practice, practice, practice. The best place to get experience and practice is school. Once you get some knowledge, then start looking at where you want to go with it, (eg. table hopping, stage, busking, kids ect.)

A great book that will give you advice on what type of tricks to perform, how to dress, what to say, how to get jobs, ect. is Jim Pace's - Magic for Restaurants. This book covers nearly every question a restaurant worker/table hopper could ask! I highly recommend it!

Mike


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Just remember that the specs enjoyment comes before the magic. Look into Sankey for magic. Paddy has written a book on restaurant work, if I'm not mistaken, that would be worth looking into.


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I would suggest checking out the Stevens video on restaurant magic first, decide from there if you want to look into it further. From there, I'd look at alot of close up magic, as well as books on restaurant magic. Jim Pace and Kirk Charles both have great books on the subject, as well as the magic menu magazines, the workers series (the videos give great advice on restaurants as well), R. Paul Wilson has a video on restaurant magic I do not own it but I hear good things (I believe penguin still carries this). I could go on and on, look into restaurant magic in a little more detail and feel free to ask questions along the way.


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A good trick for this is The Street Pen, Magic Mints, And The Million Doller Knot. Hope this helped.


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I think Jim Pace is out of print, but Kirk Charles is around. Anyone know?


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thanks guys.
I think i might get Paul Wilsons DVD


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Jim pace is out of print, but you still can find it online and some local magic shops. They have it @ www.williamsmagic.com **my local shop**


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Before you go buy anything, remember that IT ISN"T ABOUT THE EFFECTS. It is about your personality, the spectators dont care what the effect is, just that you relate to them and make them laugh. Now their are certain exceptions, like counting tricks, that you never want to do, but work on developing your own magical personality, and design your favorite tricks around those. A great book on restaurant work is Jim Pace's "The complete guide to restaurant and walk around magic." Search around, you can find it.


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exodus wrote:
Paddy has written a book on restaurant work, if I'm not mistaken, that would be worth looking into.



Most definitely. Wayno's site, http://www.spookclub.com carries it :)


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whats it called?


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Peter Lansing's Making a Living Entertaining in Restaurants. I am definately getting it this christmas (already ordered it) even though I have been saying that for a while.

-Mike


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Peter Lansing's Making a Living Entertaining in Restaurants. I am definately getting it this christmas (already ordered it) even though I have been saying that for a while.

-Mike


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I got Jay Sankey's Beyond Secrets book and i really enjoyed it. If you want to do what Hacker said really refine your personality, that is a really good book.


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Hacker wrote:
remember that IT ISN"T ABOUT THE EFFECTS. It is about your personality, the spectators dont care what the effect is, just that you relate to them and make them laugh. Now their are certain exceptions, like counting tricks, that you never want to do, but work on developing your own magical personality, and design your favorite tricks around those.



2 things I wanted to say, 1 some counting tricks are very exciting, such as any card at any number or the wishing trick. and second, while I agree that lots of focus needs to be put on presentation, you should however still seek out the best effects. If you have great patter but a bad trick, the audience really only focuses on the fact that its a bad trick.


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