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 Post subject: They want to see the deck etc.
PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2003 7:49 am 
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If your audience want to see your deck or whatever prop you are doing... if you are using gimmicks, you should learn to do your magic without gimmicks. Pure magic can always be inspected and you are always "clean".


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 Post subject: Re: They want to see the deck etc.
PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2003 11:31 pm 
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your the magician YOU WORK ALONE dude most gimmicks can be palmed off into the pocket or concealed somehow and then vanished I always like to end clean try to find ways to end clean by adding a last step for yourself to the effect if the effect is strong enuff a clean up can be performed when the jaws drop and then the look away in disbelief.I always ADD the extra step in my perfomance for quick clean up.? why do you say it can always be inspected for ME the magic is not in the trick the magic is what you put INTO IT for instance I know dozens of ways to reverse a card but I know a 100 ways to make it magicly appear there. I dont know if you understand this but I tried.


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 Post subject: Re: They want to see the deck etc.
PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2003 3:28 am 
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DO NOT LISTEN to those who say you NEED or you SHOULD learn sleight of hand tricks. ALL effects gimmicked or not, take practice to perform well and still be entertaining unless you are the rare natural. Many gimmicked tricks require sleight of hand to perform anyway. It could be considered a unofficial "sleight" just to not reveal that you are using a gimmick. You may still consider yourself a magician even if you only perform gimmicked effects. Eugene Burger is a very successful close-up and stage magician where almost every effect he performs uses a gimmick or "setup" of some kind.(That I've seen, live and on video) The sleight of hand he does use is very basic. I personally recommend a mixture of both. That way if you find yourself in a situation where you want to do a trick and don't have any of your gimmicks with you, you can still perform. Then there is the fact that there are so many fabulous sleight of hand effects to be enjoyed.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 03, 2003 10:41 am 
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The best thing to do is to buy a deck switcher. That way you can always show them your deck after the trick is done. If you don't have a deck switcher, GET ONE! Or just learn to do tricks with a regular deck of cards. OR the other out is to have a regular deck in your jacket pocket and as soon as you are done with the gimmicked deck put them in the pocket with the regular deck and pull out the regular deck if they happen to want to see them. Good Luck!!!


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 06, 2003 1:09 am 
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The best thing that woorks for me and its pretty much basic psychology. you do this. Do your trick with the gimmick right? after that put the deck in your pocket right away. he asks to see it you can either take out another deck that you had already in that pocket and you say wait let me show you antoher trick. then you say "wait instead let me show you another one" . People always liek another trick. then do a trick with a little slights. or a little pathetic one. they 'l etiher get over your wanting to look at the deck but if they ask you have nothing to lose cuz you already swtiched the decks.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2003 10:29 am 
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if there is a big group of people and they want to see cards that are gimmicked and i really cant switch or any thing i say "whats that over there"they look the other way and i run (im a fast runner) :D :D :D :D
i would rather run then normal people figure out a trick :D :D


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2003 11:00 pm 
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nice one lol^


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 2003 9:41 am 
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J78 wrote:
if there is a big group of people and they want to see cards that are gimmicked and i really cant switch or any thing i say "whats that over there"they look the other way and i run (im a fast runner) :D :D :D :D
i would rather run then normal people figure out a trick :D :D


i need to go out and pratice running right now


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2003 11:01 am 
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LOL that is flipping hilarious...Run hahahaha...

This is what's great about being a magician....If you get a trick that leaves dirtiness on the table or in your hands or in a specs hands then.....IMHO the trick is not over...I don't care what the instructions say there needs to be a way out. I am pretty sure that aaron fisher doesn't leave his gimmicked cards all over the place even though the trick directions do. I belive that it is up to us as magicians to keep our gimmicks ours and our secrets safe. It doesn't matter weather it's crowd control or ditching or switching. It is OUR responsibility and not the audience to guard our magic.

The best tricks end clean....

All MY humblest opinion of course. responsible replies welcome...of course I can't do much about irresponsible replies anyway....so all replies welcome...I guess


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 03, 2003 9:37 pm 
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personally, i try to make the performance so good that they wont ask if anything's gimmicked. i prefer the "magic anarchist" approach to magic, but when faced with other circumstances, i try to make the experience a moving one, or try to end clean. since i'm still in school, i perform close to the bell, and before a class. therefore i'm safe from screwups and these questions.


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running is always a good way lol


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 05, 2004 1:13 am 
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Well this is my first post and I thought it would be great time to post this just think if all gimmick decks were made of flash paper.... just get your lighter or matchs and WOOOOF there gone.. Hows that for inspectible.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 09, 2004 7:43 pm 
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i find in my short time performing tricks that talking is the simplest way

classic example of a great trick which a dirty end no matter what is the invisible deck

i do 1 of 2 things, - pack the deck back up , pocket and have a similar coloured deck in there too and if asked i take the ordinary deck out

or i talk about how amazing the trick is, i performed the invisible deck to a few people after which 1 person said, hey hold on show me the cards

so i rambled on for a few seconds on how what i had just done was inconcievable, think about it, no hands near any cards and the 1 card you think of is face down, think man think

the guy totally forgot he wanted to see the deck, packed up, and slid into a pocket thats not handy

if they remember later, just say
**whats cards**


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