First off may I say thanks for the helpful advice at the end of your post, that's the kind of suggestion I was looking for. Secondly, may I say thanks for presenting yourself in a calm, organized way and presenting some actual insight into the goings-on here with an intellectual approach. Rather than saying "OMG DON'T SAY ANYTHING AGAINST PADDY CUZ HE IS ALWAYS RIGHT. I KNOW THIS CUZ I'M TOO STUPID TO ARGUE WITH HIM SO I JUST ASSUME NOBODY ELSE CAN SEE THE ERRORS HE SOMETIMES MAKES".
Actually your point was that since I'm inexperienced as a mentalist, I shouldn't do the show at all. My post didn't prove that at all.
You say yourself that you are inexperienced as a mentalist.
The above quote of my text is in reference to my and Paddy's first post. At that point in time I had said nothing to indicate that I was completely incapable of doing the show.
And yes, I am inexperienced in performing mentalism.
So paddy, as usual, was right. Plus the fact that if you are asking for effects for an upcoming show means that you accepted a job without a planned routine and script.
Well as per my previous response, Paddy was not right, however usual of a thing that may be. And since you failed to grasp it from my first post, I will spell this out for you again: I am not asking for effects, I know the methods to all the effects mentioned, and I have my own routine for each one. I was merely looking for other people's takes on the effects to see if there were any other creative minds out there, doing great things with a fantastic effect.
I accepted a job with what I believe to be a solid routine, and at no point have I said when the show will be. All I have said is it is "coming up" which could be anything as far as you know. However to tell you, it is in a couple months, and that is more than enough time to take my show-idea and turn it into a great show. Part of this process is finding out if any aspect of the routine itself could be improved before polishing it up to 100% perfect. That was my original aim here which has been hijacked by incompetent, emotional over-reactors (not you).
Secondly, you are participating in a 100% English forum. Everyone participating posts in English and is expected to understand English. The fact that you speak 7 other languages is moot. The only bearing it has is that your grasp of English is weaker than mine as a result of the language center in your simian brain being split 8 ways.
This was a poor attempt at an insult, and directed at a full time professional magician. So much for respect. He is giving you the right advice, as much as you don't want to hear it.
Why should I respect someone that just jumps on any opportunity to try and prove his superiority over others? Someone that just instantly harps on people without all of the facts? With someone that jumps to conclusions and responds in a negative manner without thinking?
His advice was given in haste under false assumptions, and therefore is fully incorrect. It also had nothing to do with the original question. I didn't ask "Do you guys think I'm ready to do the show?". That is for me to decide and I already have made that decision. I asked if anybody had an interesting take on the Invisible Touch effect. And so far nobody has responded to that question.
Thirdly, I think you mean "interpret" but who knows, if you won't take the time to run a spell-checker, how can you have any credibility as a hard-working non-lazy magician? Disgusting.
One spelling mistake doesn't make someone's advice any less credible. You have a grammar error in the first sentence of your original post. Big deal, it happens.
You are correct, a small spelling mistake or grammatical error that doesn't affect the meaning of a sentence at all doesn't make anybody less credible. It does happen and nobody is perfect. The quote of my text you have provided there is a satirical jab at how he jumps on others for the exact same pitfall he succumbs to. That instance of a spelling error is just one of a LARGE number for Paddy, and he should stop telling people they are lazy magicians because they are too lazy to run a spell-checker. *HE* is too lazy to run a spell-checker as shown above! He's definitely not a lazy magician, he's just too busy to waste his time making his forum-posts 100% grammatically accurate. Maybe the others that make spelling mistakes and don't run a spell checker are too busy practicing their magic? Once again his logic is flawed.
No I expressed myself in a 100% clear manner. I was looking for thoughts and workings of the Invisible Touch routine additional to those of my own. I didn't state the reason why I wanted them, and you just assumed it was because I have no current workings for the routine. It was your assumption that caused the problem. It was not a result of any ambiguity on my part.
If you had done your research, Banachek, Knepper, Jermay, and Osterlind all have material on enhancing any mentalism act. And if you have Banacheck's Psychokinetic Touches, he pretty much covers everything you need. Stories and patter need to be original to the performer, otherwise the performance becomes stale and boring.
Part of my research was asking a well-established community their thoughts and experiences with the matter. Once again, thanks for actually providing useful advice. You really are this forum's shining star, unlike the rest of the dead weight you see posting above you. I will be sure to consult those materials. As for stories original to the performer. I have my own, and I was interested in seeing what others have to say on the subject. Maybe to hybridize all of our ideas into a synergetic masterpiece and share it with the community. However this ideal has gone horribly awry, as you can tell, mostly in part to the negative non-helpful instantaneous assuming response of Paddy.
And yes, I am inexperienced in performing mentalism, and that's why I wrote here looking for potential ideas people may have thought of that I have not yet considered and have not yet been able to learn due to my lack of experience. However, you are suggesting that I back-out of getting my first experience BECAUSE I have no experience. Your logic is, as usual, extremely flawed. I'm 100% confident I can deliver a great show that the client will be overly-pleased with, as I have experience with performing in general, and will just be applying a mentalism filter to that framework. I wrote here seeking knowledge from those that do have the experience in hopes of delivering an even better show, because I care that much about delivering for the client
You're inexperienced in a field, are asking for effects after you've accepted a show, and are looking for scripting and stories for an effect that allows pretty much endless possibilities
. That doesn't show much dedication to the art or your client's wishes.
Once again, I'm not asking for effects at all. I think you misunderstood my original intention and I hope it is now clear.
The fact that there are endless possibilities
is the very reason I am asking. Since there are endless possibilities there is no way I can consider them all on my own. That is why I have asked the opinions of others, who may offer up the 1 or 2 ideas they have filtered out from the rest. Do you understand what my intention is now?
He's not saying, "Don't perform mentalism because you're inexperienced." He's saying, "Don't do a PAYING gig with material you're inexperienced with." Therefore, paddy's logic holds.
I have to do my first mentalism paying gig somewhere. It may not be the best mentalism show I will do in my life, but everyone has to start somewhere. I'm inexperienced in doing professional mentalism, however, I have a great deal of amateur experience. This is the route everyone takes on the road to becoming great. I know I am ready to do a paying gig with the material I have, I'm merely seeking to make it even better, and I have plenty of time to do so. Paddy's logic does not hold because he does not have all the facts. He doesn't know how long I have to actually get ready, he misunderstood my initial question, as you did, and he didn't even respond to the question.
No, I expressed exactly what I wanted to. What I didn't express was the reason I was asking. I didn't express it because it was unimportant and had zero bearing on what the response should be. Perhaps you could re-write your answer to provide useful advice instead of simply attempting to discourage people from broadening their horizons.
You asked: "Does anyone have any unusual or creative ways of presenting the Invisible Touch (A.K.A. the PK Touch)? Do you have a good story to go with it?"
If you can't be bothered to come up with your own scripting and presentation, how are we supposed to take that? At face value, it certainly looks as though you're lazy and don't want to do the work. Whether that's true or not, I don't know. You have to be specific on these forums, as we don't know who you are or what you're capable of.
Again, I have "bothered" to come up with my own scripting and presentation. So I would suggest you to take that in a different manner than you already have. At face value that WOULD look lazy, but that is not what I said at all, and I don't see why you would infer it from my original post. You raise a good point of not knowing what level I'm at due to the anonymity, but by the same token you can not assume that I'm 100% not-ready to perform a show, because the fact is you just don't know.
As far as other "tricks" to use in your routine, I'd recommend Corinda's 13 Steps and Anneman's Practical Mental Magic. They both have a ton of effects, and I'm sure there's some in there that could suit you.
Once again, I'll look into both of these. This is really helpful advice and Paddy, if he wanted to actually help instead of just making himself feel like a big-boss-man, should have offered something along these lines.
So in summary, you're much less assuming and far more intelligent, miniserb725, than Guardian452 as well as Paddy. I really appreciate you responding with well-thought-out points, as well as actually helpful advice pertaining to the original post. I will look into the materials you suggested and I think they should answer my questions perfectly. Thanks again!