I really don't know if this has been done before.
But everybody post you routines(set of tricks) here.
And give a little detail in every trick of your routines.
Mine are coming...

Elliot Carver

Didn't you just ask what trick are good to use?

How about no? We have worked very hard on our routines and I know I'm sure as edited am not going to just give it up so everyone else can see it. It's my personal routine. I don't want anyone else copying me. Plus, I spend the time, the research, the money, the practice, etc into making my routines mine. And I know the other professionals here have done so as well. So I doubt you will be getting any routines from anyone here.

thanks fallen

Fallen, you are a true magicians magician...

You define what 'brotherhood' means to magicians around the world. Really amazes me that magicians sometimes try and act like they have such a respect for the art and the so called 'brotherhood', but then do not want to pass on knowledge to other magicians, which does nothing but help our art from progress.

Oh, but of course I am forgetting the fact that you are a famous magician, and if anyone was to use your routine, it would very much effect your life... My god, for all we know you would most likely lose your job...

Dylan,

You forgot to post your routines.

A lot of the feeling of "brotherhood" here is about sharing, not taking. Some give and because of that they get in return. Some just take and take and offer nothing.

It doesn't take getting burned more than a few times before you simply wait to see what's offered before giving up your own hard earned secrets.

I give freely whenever I can, but usually to those who have an honest desire to share. To all the "takers" out there, I simply do nothing and they'll never know what they missed.

Have I offered my own routines? Yes, many times. In this thread? No.

Maybe before you say anything about me, go and read my posts. I've given a lot of helpful information. The information has been given to elliotcarver. He has all the information he needs to create effective routines. Why should I do rest of the work for him?

The "brotherhood" means nothing when others don't want to do their part. I can give my advice, and my opinion on many different topics. But I will not go as far as giving people my routines. Not after I've worked hard, to come up with them.

So, before you insinuate anything about me, or tell me that I'm not helping the "brotherhood" of magicians, go read my posts. Just because I don't want to just hand out my routines, because I figure magicians should step-up, and do the work themselves, doesn't mean I don't give out helpful information.

Watch my last post.
Why are you all fighting?
Can't you all discuss in a friendly way.

we aren't that stupid you know... if you just wanted to see if a routine would have bottle production or a real big climax, why would you ask to see our routines instead of asking, should there be a bottle production or a real big climax... geezz, did you even read the rules?


-MagicTay

Thank you for this one. I just responded to a PM to someone with the phrase "never underestimate the power of human stupidity," and you just proved it.

OF COURSE a routine MUST have a big climax. But I really do sugest that you end with very minor trick to experiment.

Does a routine have to have a bottle production? If that's your ending trick then it must have it, however, nothing is required in a routine not even a bottle production.

Watch my last post.

What a load of BS. No you dont have to have a bottle production.
You choose whats in your routine. Be creative. IF your that needy, watch some dvds of performers.

http://www.penguinmagic.com/discuss/vie ... highlight=
something like that would have been a better question... tips on building a routine.

Don't delete this.
Watch my last post please

you got yourself in this mess...