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 Post subject: Owner or Manager?
PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 10:55 am 
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If you had the choice to speak to the manager or the owner of a restaurant about a magic gig, who would it be and why?

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lets see....might it be the ne who makes decisions about spending that sort of money?


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In English please.


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AustinWaldo wrote:
In English please.
He answered in English. WHO decides where money gets spent. That's the person you want to talk to, the decision maker, no one else.


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AustinWaldo wrote:
In English please.


He forgot a letter in the word "one". Give it a break. They are a lot of people with worse grammar than him on here.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 1:35 am 
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Ahhhh aahah

I couldn't figure out what "ne" was for the life of me. lol I though you meant, "any" or something like that. Sorry bro.

Oh and paddy, it was a typo. Typos are cool, but typos are NOT English.

Back on subject,

Who usually controls the spending of green? The Manager or the Owner?

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Lewis, your site is down.


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Is is indeed. Just hasnt been updated in years, its now www.benlewis.co.uk

Please dont copy any part of my website.

Also, the situation will be differet everytime. In a TGI Fridays, you are probably looking at the manager, but again it could sometimes be the franchise owner.

Small restaurants are almost always the ower.

You ask to speak to the person that makes the decisions regarding table side entertainment.


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benlewis2004 wrote:
Please dont copy any part of my website.


Dang it. I was going to copy the whole thing :roll:

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But thanks for the advice. What you are telling me makes sense.

Thanks bra


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 Post subject: decision maker
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Austin ask the person who is in charge of making the final decision. So ask the owner. You NEVER want to try to close a deal on someone who is not the decision maker and anyone who tells you otherwise has not studied any type of persuasion. I've been doing restaurants for over 7 years and the only time you will talk to the owner is if it is a smaller local restaurant but the restaurants like Old Chicago require other tactics. You have to talk to the GM (General Manager) because s/he will make the final decision to hire you. Or you can go straight to the corporate office and send a proposal on why you fit their image, etc.

But whatever you do TALK TO THE DECISION MAKER. If you talk to anyone else then you are wasting your time


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If its an opinion its different, but it can be fustrating when someone repeats what someone else has already said.


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Step one is to identify the descision maker.

Do research on the establishment.
If the company franchises, then you want the local franchise owner.
If the company doesn't franchise, you want the individual location's manager.
If it's a local restaurant, you need the owner.

Call and find out who does the descision making. Sometimes owners are involved in other things and let an experienced manager handle the restaurant for them - so you never know. Call and get some info, proceed from there.


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A franchise is an establishment that has multiple locations with different owners
Some times an owner will own two or three locations.
Anything else is not franchised, if a place has multiple locations, but one owner it’s not franchised
Either way good luck getting a hold of the owner.
Usually you can find the owner if it’s a one stop place (a local establishment with one location)
Always ask the manager unless the owner is on site
But how often does that work out for you?
The manager can ALWAYS find out ANYTHING you want to know


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forreststone wrote:
A franchise is an establishment that has multiple locations with different owners
Some times an owner will own two or three locations.
Anything else is not franchised, if a place has multiple locations, but one owner it’s not franchised.

You're contradicting yourself again.

Either way good luck getting a hold of the owner.
Usually you can find the owner if it’s a one stop place (a local establishment with one location)
Always ask the manager unless the owner is on site
But how often does that work out for you?
The manager can ALWAYS find out ANYTHING you want to know

Forreststone, please stop giving advise on Restaurant Magic topics. Your advise is consistently bad and your "facts" are consistently wrong. Wait till you have experience before you try to give advise.


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 5:30 am 
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there are a large number of incompetent managers as it happens in the restaurant world. I wouldnt put half of them in charge of a paper bag, let alone a restaurant.

You have no way of knowing a restaurant is franchised or not unless you ask.

You can own 1 restaurant or more in a franchise.


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