Well, actually I decided to let it go and not reply one more time- one reason is that I agree with Bucky310 that all of these debates are a waste of time. It's right, both sides are biased in this case and it always ends up the same way. Though you have to accept, I have the same right as everybody else to state my opinions, even if I were the only one who sees things like I do. And I don't throw my 2 cents in every topic about Criss Angel, but sometimes I can't help but stating what I think, even when I know it's a waste of time and only exhausting...
However, this is a democracy, and even you magicians can't make those members vanish who swim against the current and speak out from time to time.
But why I post again, thecooltonto adressed me and I feel the need to answer.
Also "Loyal" Ananya Sirbrad is probably just tired of hearing you say the same crap again and again that all the loyals say, just like me as well. He is tired of being asked to levitate because "Angel can do it." He is tired of "Angel being the best." He is tired of the camera trickery and insults to magic, the exposure and the mockery of magic as well. But in this particular case I know at least I am tired of you not listening to us and just saying the same things over and over which we explain to you again and again. It gets old VERY quick.
Do you think I'm not tired of it? I'm tired of magicians calling me stupid or even worse, just because I'm a Loyal. No offence, but I'm
tired of this arrogant behaviour, of talking against a brick wall- when I first came to this forum, I thought it's possible to debate on an appropriate level, but almost every time it ends up with personal insults. That's so immature and unnecessary. Why do I still post here? I explained it above.
When it comes to people who ask a magician to levitate or walk on water like Criss Angel, that's a stupid reason to dislike somebody. I know, this is just an example and you have a lot of other reasons, but in this case it's not his fault if people are that stupid. I'm not
talking about camera trickey, just about the fact that big illusions normally cost big money and need a huge setup and a team, and everybody should know at least that and not expect a "normal" street magician to do big stuff like that. I'm sure you wouldn't dislike Copperfield if somebody came up to you and asked if you can make the Statue of Liberty disappear or walk through a wall.
I posted reasons why I despise Angel and you couldn't logically refute one. You can't come up with a logical reason to like Angel. And if you do like him then that means you dislike magic because he IS an insult to magic. If you like something that mocks, insults, damages, and steals from magic then do you really like magic? No!You like Angel, and you like his MOVIE magic. You do NOT like and probably don't even know what real magic is. I'm tired of seeing your repetitive, stubborn, and ignorant statements on here that generally don't even relate to what we say. I really wish you would gain a little maturity and try to think about what we say and stop blindly telling yourself how great Angel is and how you have to love him and other things like that. Just because you woke up one day and decided to love angel doesn't mean you should keep doing it once you learn what an idiot he is. Find a better person to look up to, perhaps a true artist or a person that has done something else great with their time and efforts.
First to the bold sentences- it's interesting that you think I "decided" to like Criss, maybe here lays one of the big misunderstandings. I don't know what about you, but I am not able to knowingly, logically decide to like or even love somebody- it just happens, just like magic. One day I saw Criss, and I was captivated, I was mindfreaked. I couldn't get enough of it, and that didn't change to date.
I did state some of the reasons why I love him and what he does as an artist, but in one particular point you're right: it has a lot more to do with emotions than with logic. It has to do with something that is far bigger than all of these pettifogging arguments.
For the rest of what you said in this paragraph, here comes again what I pointed out in the beginning of this post- personal insults, jumping to a conclusion... and you talk to me about maturity?
What you're saying about me not liking magic is nonsense. Seriously, I just see things different than you, deal with it. In my opinion Criss is not an insult to magic or anything like this- just a man who lives his dream and does what he wants, because now he can. He brings joy and entertainment and radiates the message that everything is possible. That's a very positive thing to me. Who cares if sometimes a camera trick is needed for an impossible illusion, if there's no other way to create a certain mindblowing and thought-provoking image most people have never seen before, an image that will raise emotions and inspire so many people? I look at these things from a different side. However, you talk as if everything he ever did
were camera tricks, and that's something that annoys me. He has accomplished a lot and he is
a great magician- and a great multi-talented artist, I love his music as well, just for example. Besides all that, there are Loyals who make a god out of him, and there are "haters" who make a devil out of him- both is stupid and ignorant, when in the eyes of the one side he can do no wrong, while in the eyes of the other side he can do no right. I'm not that extreme, just to let you know. But I can understand that it might seem like this here in this forum- there are things I don't like about Criss or where I disagree with something he states, that's normal- but there are no topics here about these things, so you don't here anything negative about him from me. However, it's not important.
Bottomline, why can't we just agree to disagree, or at least discuss without taking it to an insulting, disrespectful level?
Like I said, I was willing to let it go and let Sirbrad and everybody else peacefully go on with the "let's all bash Criss Angel because it's so much fun" posts without replying anymore, but for some reason I had to answer to your statements.
Best regards, Ananya