thecooltonto wrote:
Hmm taking a "I'm so mature but none of you are because you're all calling me ignorant and stubborn" is not going to help anything here except maybe you feeling better ananya.
You always take that argument because you have no other argument, and then say we're so immature. I'm just agitated and SICK of hearing how awesome Angel is when he is not. Its like I already said, he IS an insult to all of magic. Period.
Well, at least I don't have to insult anybody who disagrees with me, no matter what the reasons are. I never said I'm more mature than you or something like that- but you called me immature and in the same paragraph showed immature behaviour, what kind of answer do you expect in this case?
Since you want to debate us, then refute the points I put up against angel in another thread if you can possibly even logically debate, I personally don't think you can.
I will definitely not jump to an old topic and warm up a discussion that's already done, just to prove anything to you- I don't have to prove anything. I contribute when I want to and I stay quiet when I want to, and if you're talking about the topic I'm thinking of, I already made some long posts there and didn't feel the need to write more after that.
And yes you did decide to love angel one day. He just happened to be the celebrity you saw that day that you decided to become obsessed with. It just as easily could have been Blaine or some other celebrity, but angel just happened to be the one. Your obsession with angel is no different than any other girl's obsession with other famous people, pointless, irrational, dumb, and stupid. Angel does not inspire- period.
Angel insults. You are just obsessed with him because you choose to be and think its fun and/or cool.
That's exactly the ignorance that makes me sick. How can you say Angel does not inspire? Bs, he inspires ME, and I'm not the only one. For the rest, think whatever you want. I couldn't care less if you find it stupid, but it's just not possible to "decide" to love or not to love somebody- well, maybe you can, congratulations then. I can't. I don't know what impression you have about me, but in my 23 years of life Criss is only the second celebrity that ever meant so much to me, and the first one was a german singer and songwriter who inspired me to write my first poems, about 10 years ago. I'm not a teenage girl who wanted to fall in love with a celebrity or searched for an idol to look up to.
So again, unless you can logically debate the points I made about angel quit talking about how awesome he is to us, we're all sick of hearing about it, most of us have heard it until we're ready to puke if we hear it anymore. This is a public forum and you can't expect people to disappear just because they have a contrary opinion. That's not only about me, but in general. By the way, telling you how awesome he is is not what I mainly do here, I just contribute my opinions in those discussions- it's a totally different story when somebody asks me to state why I like Criss, as you and others did in the past, so of course in that case I did. But however, you can look forward to the next 2 months when I won't be here.
EDIT:sirbrad wrote:
Yeah I don't hand out praise often on this forum, as most do not deserve it most of the time. So feel REALLY special. Regardless of my "Angel bashing," I do see where you are coming from based on your situation. With some here it gets very frustrated trying to pound knowledge into them. Many loyals like Angel for different reasons, but what bothers me is when some claim to know more about technicalities than professional magicians, yet admit to having no magic background.
Heck maybe some even do sadly, after seeing many of the ridiculous posts here from "young" and "inexperienced" magic hobbyists; to which I am neither. Some just never learn, and remain stubborn and want to know everything right away; before actually knowing anything...
Just saw you answered while I was writing, no need to make a new post.
So, thanks again, I do feel special now.
Seriously, about the technical knowledge and people claiming to know it all better, I have to agree with you, that must be very frustrating. In my case, when it comes to what's technical possible and what's not, people tell me that I have a huge imagination and that sometimes I think about technical possibilites that just don't exist in the real world. So maybe you and others thought in the past that I'm one of those claiming to know everything, because when people talked about camera tricks, in some posts I stated alternative thoughts that had come to my mind- but in these cases I didn't want to sound like somebody who "knows it better"- if I did, I apologize for it. In reality it's just that I know that I don't have that knowledge, but what I have is my imagination, so I just decide to take the inspiration and keep on thinking "what if...", because that's just my mentality- and so much more inspiring than thinking "everybody says it is a camera trick, it has to be true and I don't have to think about it anymore". And I thought to share these thoughts could maybe inspire others to think beyond, because that's what causes improvement, isn't it?