Hey guys,

I´m doing the muscle pass since quite a while and i want to know who from you do the muscle pass?

Do you just perform the normal coin fall up routine or something different?

What reactions do you get?

I also want to buy a DVD about the muscle pass. But which DVD shall I get,
the one from Jay Noblezada or the one from David Kong? What do you think?

I´m from Germany, so sorry about my english.

I do the muscle pass. There aren't a ton of applications with the muscle pass yet, so use your imagination. I typically do the video camera on rewind presentation, but I also made up a trick where show an empty cups, but when you dump it out, a coin visibly and audibly dumps out. I like it

Also, I use the coin through glass trick too

yea, I use the muscle pass pretty frequently. I do the anti gravity coin a lot. I also use it for coin through window.

I would suggest david kong's dvd. Their's supposed to be a lot more information and material on it.

I love the muscle pass. I do the regular coin falling up, but with a different presentation. I also use it for:

-coin through window
-show empty hand on both sides and produce a coin
-transporting coin from right hand to left hand - invisibly then VISIBLY.

I didn't get too much from David's video. He teaches the move well, but doesn't really get into the hidden applications of it, other than the Topit. Some of the stuff on the video just doesn't strike me as impressive. Shooting two coins from each hand may look cool, but I don't shoot for impressing magicians. It's useless as an effect. He has a behind the back transfer, but I find that inferior to the move taught by Greg Wilson on On the Spot. Not to mention that I felt a little mislead, since the only John Cornelius video on the DVD was a rip from Classic Renditions. I was under the impression that Cornelius would be appearing on the video. As far as I'm concerned, Jay teaches the move well enough. He also goes into quite a few effects using the MP that are fun to do and meant for workers. If you want to truly explore what you can do with the MP, though, get anything by Shoot Ogawa.

Kris Nevling's dvd with MM is good. (I know someone hates MM....)

A lot of people hate MM

There's no smilie with a raised hand. Sucks.

They're getting better, but still releasing stolen products.

I added the laughing guy because he said that someone hates MM. It was irony, not sarcasm. Don't insinuate that I don't care about people's time they put into work, if that's what this post was about, because I do care......

Did you fully read my post? People hate the practices of that company and I want to raise my hand right along with them. When did I insinuate anything?

When you talked about a smilie, I assumed that you were referring to my post. I tried to make the irony obvious, but can somehow see how it could be construed as sarcasm. I thought that you thought my post was sarcastic, therefore insinuated that my post was degrading to people who have been stolen from by MM. I thought that you were jumping in there and degrading me because of that post. I have the same views as you do on the MM issues, and wanted to make sure that you knew that. Long story short, thanks for clearing that up.

i use it for coin falling up fairly often, and coin through glass when its the right situation. but i mostly use it to slam it through my leg during a one coin routine. i usually get really good reactions when i do that

I use the muscle pass for the coin that falls up, coin through window, one coin across and for a coin production that I don't know it's name.
It's a very usefull move but I don't think you need to buy a DVD for it... I didn't buy any DVD about the muscle pass and I use it almost every time I perform coin tricks.
Just glue some coins together and use theme as weights, after a while of doing that you'll get a good muscle pass.

I use the muscle pass for coin falling up, coin thru window and the final phase of silver dream by justin miller...I didn't like his final vanish so I invented one where I MP the coin into my breast pocket. It's actually quite good.

I've used it into my front pocket too, but always from my left hand into the pocket, which is on the left side, so it's really awkward. Apollo and Shoot both use the move too. You should look into there work for more applications of it.