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 Post subject: how to find the card after shuffle like this way.
PostPosted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 11:01 am 
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I wish to find out book or dvd can make the effect like this but I get lost.

HE say spectator can even use riffle shuffle.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZwrBbvFaw8


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 Post subject: Re: how to find the card after shuffle like this way.
PostPosted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 11:21 am 
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If he markets it it's not fair to try and deconstruct it here.

Otherwise, I can envision a multitude of methods. He could be using more than one. I see about three different methods during that short clip.

I'd look for material on key card, deck stack, Gilbreath Principle, marked cards, stripper deck.

That should keep you busy for a while, and even if you don't replicate his effects exactly, you'll have a pretty powerful routine you can call your own.


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 Post subject: Re: how to find the card after shuffle like this way.
PostPosted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 12:32 pm 
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DaveV wrote:
If he markets it it's not fair to try and deconstruct it here.

Otherwise, I can envision a multitude of methods. He could be using more than one. I see about three different methods during that short clip.

I'd look for material on key card, deck stack, Gilbreath Principle, marked cards, stripper deck.

That should keep you busy for a while, and even if you don't replicate his effects exactly, you'll have a pretty powerful routine you can call your own.


ok!
MY FRIEND HAVE WATCH HE SHOW THIS IN TAIWAN TAIPEI.
ONE ON ONE SHOW.
HE USE BORROW DECK IT IS NORMAL DECK NOT TRICK deck HE SWEAR HE DOESN'T USE KEY CARD.
BUT THE BORROW DECK NEED FEW MINUTES TO SET UP.
ALSO THE SELECTED CARD HAVE TO MOVE OUT FROM THE DECK THEN PUT IT BACK AFTER THAT YOU CAN SHUFFLE IT CUT IT ALSO YOU CAN TURN THE CARD SOME FARCE THIS SIDE SOME FARCE OTHER SIDE.

ALSO HE WELCOME PEOPLE GUESS HOW HE CAN DONE IT.


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 Post subject: Re: how to find the card after shuffle like this way.
PostPosted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 2:16 pm 
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bradrosa wrote:
I wish to find out book or dvd can make the effect like this but I get lost.

HE say spectator can even use riffle shuffle.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZwrBbvFaw8


Whatever method he used, it is a such a waste for him to use it in such a dull manner.


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 Post subject: Re: how to find the card after shuffle like this way.
PostPosted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 2:45 pm 
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http://www.theory11.com/1on1/#new/page: ... /video:100
something like it.


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 Post subject: Re: how to find the card after shuffle like this way.
PostPosted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 3:31 pm 
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eostresh wrote:
http://www.theory11.com/1on1/#new/page:1/sort:artist/video:100
something like it.


THANK YOU FOR THE GOOD MAGIC.
BUT I DON'T THING THIS WOULD BE CLOSE
BECAUSE THIS ONE I JUST WATCH ONE TIME I THING I JUST GOT IT.

THERE ARE SERVERY WAY CAN DO IT.

I WILL USE MEMORY DECK.

FOR ME
I MEMORY SPADES J IS 1 CLUB KING 2

MY CARD FROM 1 2 3 4 TO 52
WHEN Separate TWO PART ONE stack of cards IS LOW LEVEL NUMBER.
THE OTHER stack of cards ARE HIGHT NUMBER.

AFTER SHE DEAL THE CARD ON THE TABLE THAT PART OF THE CARDS ORDER BECOME Reverse.

I MIGHT BE GUESS WRONG.
BUT STILL THANK YOU FOR SHOW ME THIS GOOD TRICK.


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 Post subject: Re: how to find the card after shuffle like this way.
PostPosted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 4:24 pm 
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bradrosa wrote:
eostresh wrote:
http://www.theory11.com/1on1/#new/page:1/sort:artist/video:100
something like it.


THANK YOU FOR THE GOOD MAGIC.
BUT I DON'T THING THIS WOULD BE CLOSE
BECAUSE THIS ONE I JUST WATCH ONE TIME I THING I JUST GOT IT.

THERE ARE SERVERY WAY CAN DO IT.

I WILL USE MEMORY DECK.

FOR ME
I MEMORY SPADES J IS 1 CLUB KING 2

MY CARD FROM 1 2 3 4 TO 52
WHEN Separate TWO PART ONE stack of cards IS LOW LEVEL NUMBER.
THE OTHER stack of cards ARE HIGHT NUMBER.

AFTER SHE DEAL THE CARD ON THE TABLE THAT PART OF THE CARDS ORDER BECOME Reverse.

I MIGHT BE GUESS WRONG.
BUT STILL THANK YOU FOR SHOW ME THIS GOOD TRICK.

Okay....Do it however you think is best.
Here is a couple of things...
1st This is not a descussion forum that is into sharing specific methods. That would be okay in a Penguins Only forum so long as the methods are specific to the performance of the effect the PO forum is set aside for.
2nd. Though it is not the same method, if presented well, it will give the same effect to your audience. Beginning and intermediate magicians get too hung up on the method. The real secret is presentation. I guarantee you that in a layman's eyes they were handed a deck, they shuffled the deck and found a card, and you determined what that card was. One of these is already available as a $5.00 download, another looks like pre-hype for an effect about to be marketed. You can decide if the $5.00 is worth it to you, whether you would rather wait for this other effect to be marketed(which may never happen), or if you can come up with your own way of doing the same effect. One way or the other this is not the place to postulate about the specific of the method.


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 Post subject: Re: how to find the card after shuffle like this way.
PostPosted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 6:18 pm 
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I also have something to add. This guy is obviously a kid (the way that I am young but not a kid) who joined this forum so he can have people help him try and figure out tricks.


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 Post subject: Re: how to find the card after shuffle like this way.
PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 8:32 am 
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eostresh wrote:
Okay....Do it however you think is best.
Here is a couple of things...
1st This is not a descussion forum that is into sharing specific methods. That would be okay in a Penguins Only forum so long as the methods are specific to the performance of the effect the PO forum is set aside for.
2nd. Though it is not the same method, if presented well, it will give the same effect to your audience. Beginning and intermediate magicians get too hung up on the method. The real secret is presentation. I guarantee you that in a layman's eyes they were handed a deck, they shuffled the deck and found a card, and you determined what that card was. One of these is already available as a $5.00 download, another looks like pre-hype for an effect about to be marketed. You can decide if the $5.00 is worth it to you, whether you would rather wait for this other effect to be marketed(which may never happen), or if you can come up with your own way of doing the same effect. One way or the other this is not the place to postulate about the specific of the method.


thank you I buy the trick that you gave it to me.
I found out the way I mention yesterday is not the good way.

I can sprite the card to two part one stack with odd number the other stack is even number
if spectator pick the odd stack after she deal down the card to 14 and stop.
when she shuffle two stack together I can count the ODD card from the bottom the 14TH card.

I wish can found out the way don't need to watch how spectator shuffle the card after her put the card back and found out the card like the video.
in the video spectator pick a card and shuffle all on him back.
he doesn't watch at all.

no key card no helper
in Taiwan there are two people found out how he make it and they say is base on some way in some cards trick book long time ago but nobody release DVD.
The books are English Version but they don't tell me the books name.


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 Post subject: Re: how to find the card after shuffle like this way.
PostPosted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 4:19 pm 
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I imagine you like this guy... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M83cCk3e ... 1&index=16


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 Post subject: Re: how to find the card after shuffle like this way.
PostPosted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 11:08 am 
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mchkeegan wrote:
bradrosa wrote:
I wish to find out book or dvd can make the effect like this but I get lost.

HE say spectator can even use riffle shuffle.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZwrBbvFaw8


Whatever method he used, it is a such a waste for him to use it in such a dull manner.


I fine out the way.
IT really a good way.

but riffle shuffle max 3 TIMEs. Indo Shuffle max 2Times.
use memory deck and card chain Break points.


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 Post subject: Re: how to find the card after shuffle like this way.
PostPosted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 11:46 am 
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Anyone notice he said his friend needed a few minutes to set up the borrowed deck?


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 Post subject: Re: how to find the card after shuffle like this way.
PostPosted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 10:55 am 
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I could pull that trick in a different way. I would used mechanic skills to pull it off.

I would give the people a STRAIGHT DECK, NO TRICK DECK, tell them to pick a card. They would pick a card just like the people did in this demo, however, I would tell them to put it on top the deck. They would return the deck to me, I would false shuffle such a manner that heaven above would think the cards are being shuffled, but here is the clutch of the trick, I would then pass the deck to one of the other spectators to cut the deck. And when they cut the deck, the card that the first spectator picked will be on top the deck. This will work for me 98 times out of a 100. I have WON countless amounts of money on that trick, and it is done with a straight deck, no trick deck. In the demo, I am quite sure some trickery with the deck is included.

Just my observation...

ceh


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