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 Post subject: New to mentalism.
PostPosted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 9:29 pm 
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Im not new to magic but I'm new to mentalism, what's a good place to start? There's so much material out there and the reviews don't always do them justice.


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 Post subject: Re: New to mentalism.
PostPosted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 1:04 am 
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13 Steps to Mentalism will teach you the basics. Look up Derren Brown's videos and watch how he makes mentalism "visual" to get people engaged with his performance.


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 Post subject: Re: New to mentalism.
PostPosted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 10:34 pm 
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ho9w about Psypher? is that any good for a first purchase?


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 Post subject: Re: New to mentalism.
PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 9:42 am 
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Nothing should really be purchased besides 13 steps to mentalism or practical mental magic. Either of those books will teach you the basics of mentalism. If you want to purchase one effect, then go ahead but it'll only teach you one thing. The books mentioned above will teach you more than you ever need to know. Plus they have many effects in them that work to this day and fool the heck out of people.


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 Post subject: Re: New to mentalism.
PostPosted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 1:17 am 
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Do NOT purchase psypher, you wont know how to perform it anywhere NEAR to its full potential. Start with 13 steps, of if thats too bland for you, work with some other basic work, graduate to Luke Jermay's ideas over time. From Luke you can learn how to present mentalism effectively for maximum impact, as well as many other adept performers, i.e. Banacheck.


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 Post subject: Re: New to mentalism.
PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 9:49 pm 
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in my mind books are great but sometimes it is hard to picture what is going on so i would invest in 13 steps to mentalism the 6dvd set and the book i feel it would be a great combo

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 Post subject: Re: New to mentalism.
PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 10:56 pm 
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I recommend and also agree that 13 Steps is an excellent choice making for a fine staple in any mentalist's/magician's library but I will step out in opposition to some opinions and actually recommend Psypher.
It's OK if one can't perform it to their full potential but it will certainly be GREAT FUN while learning how and gaining experience.

I also highly recommend the Xpert; http://www.penguinmagic.com/product.php?ID=606


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 Post subject: Re: New to mentalism.
PostPosted: Fri Sep 10, 2010 12:37 pm 
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EZ, that makes no sense. Why would you purchase something knowing fully you cant perform it to its full potential? Thats like slapping the amazing effect in the face.

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 Post subject: Re: New to mentalism.
PostPosted: Sat Sep 11, 2010 11:48 am 
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he has a point though, you might want some instant gratification and just have fun with it


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 Post subject: Re: New to mentalism.
PostPosted: Sat Sep 11, 2010 12:06 pm 
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Lensman wrote:
he has a point though, you might want some instant gratification and just have fun with it


You dont get into magic for INSTANT gratification.


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 Post subject: Re: New to mentalism.
PostPosted: Sat Sep 11, 2010 12:10 pm 
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DavidTheCryptic wrote:
You dont get into magic for INSTANT gratification.


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 Post subject: Re: New to mentalism.
PostPosted: Sat Sep 11, 2010 1:11 pm 
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That's what learning those stupid card tricks that anyone can do are for. Mentalism is a tough craft... at least, if you get it right it is.


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 Post subject: Re: New to mentalism.
PostPosted: Sat Sep 11, 2010 10:30 pm 
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bucky310 wrote:
That's what learning those stupid card tricks that anyone can do are for. Mentalism is a tough craft... at least, if you get it right it is.


I'll go ahead and argue that while mentalism may rely much more heavily on performance, a card "magician" just going through the motions isn't gonna get any sort of reaction other than "Oh, fast hands."

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 Post subject: Re: New to mentalism.
PostPosted: Sat Sep 11, 2010 10:45 pm 
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miniserb725 wrote:
bucky310 wrote:
That's what learning those stupid card tricks that anyone can do are for. Mentalism is a tough craft... at least, if you get it right it is.


I'll go ahead and argue that while mentalism may rely much more heavily on performance, a card "magician" just going through the motions isn't gonna get any sort of reaction other than "Oh, fast hands."

-JT


Is that not a form of instant gratification? I think we're agreeing with each other here... maybe not, I can misinterpret often.


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 Post subject: Re: New to mentalism.
PostPosted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 1:39 am 
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Maybe, but I don't think it's the desired effect.

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