View Cart | View Account | Help
Order by phone: 800-880-2592
Check out our favorite NEW ARRIVALS
Need it fast? Order before 4pm Eastern and your order ships SAME DAY.

All times are UTC - 5 hours




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 20 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next
Author Message
 Post subject: Demon Kids Advice
PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 2:39 pm 
Offline
Penguin

Joined: 06 Jan 2005
Posts: 115
I've been performing for 30 years and, in that time, I've had a lot of great kids audiences and a few tough ones as well (as you do). Well, last Saturday, I had the worst group of kids I've ever had. About 10 minutes in, they decided to get up and have some food. The parents told them to sit back down. After one of the gags, they all over-reacted and decided to run from the room, leaving me and the parents alone! The show had to be paused while they all came back. And then, halfway through, three of the kids decided they would have a fight.

The parents had no control over these kids. Usually, I handle any kids that come my way, no problem. But these ones took the cake! I felt like walking out before the show was over but, of course, the parents had paid for a 30 minute show, so that's what they got.

I have to ask some of you veterans, how would you have handled these kids from heck?


Last edited by Webhed on Mon Mar 07, 2011 2:03 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Demon Kids Advice
PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 6:14 am 
User avatar
Offline
born to perform.

Joined: 22 Mar 2003
Posts: 3251
Location: of my spongeballs eludes me.
Add a Disruptive Kid charge to your fees! j/k :wink:

Sound like you handled it with patience and sometimes that is all you can or need to do while giving Thanks that not all shows are like that. Glad to hear you survived.

I can't say exactly what I would have done as each circumstance is different but I may have begun doing effects for the adults while the kids have their "break". Obviously some time disruptions are forgiven but one can ask the host what they would like to do as your time is valuable especially if they aren't displaying that they appreciate you are there.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Demon Kids Advice
PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 8:14 pm 
User avatar
Offline
Moderator

Joined: 24 Jan 2003
Posts: 4110
Location: Milford OH
I can't say I had a private party but I did a show for a girl scout troop once and they were bad. I stopped the show twice when 2 of the girls walked behind me so they could see how I did the effects (I use a savant.) When they tried to get behind me a third time I told them, and everone else, to SIT DOWN! The scout mistress? or whatever they call the adults called me up 4 months later, just in time for Easter, and told me she did not like the fact that I yelled at her girls. She was obviously trying to get a free show. I explained to her that I would be glad to do a show for them again, this time the fee was $1000. Whe she stopped stammering and sputtering I then told her that her group was the most rude kids I ever performed for and I had already spread the warning to all the entertainers in the area. I think that's why she called me back is other entertainers wouldn't do a show for her.

Paddy


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Demon Kids Advice
PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2011 12:23 am 
Offline
Penguin

Joined: 06 Jan 2005
Posts: 115
Thanks for the advice guys. I've always been reluctant to be too firm with the kids within earshot of the parents, since it's the parents who pay the fee! I think it's time to change things!

Thanks again! :D


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Demon Kids Advice
PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2011 4:54 pm 
User avatar
Offline
Penguin

Joined: 08 Mar 2011
Posts: 18
Location: learning how to unicycle...on my roof...while juggling knives...
I recently performed for a misbehaved group of kids and all I said was
"do you want to see a really really cool magic trick? how about you? you?... okay than but you all have to sit down and behave" and it worked really well,
I have only used it once so I cant tell you if it works all the time or not but it worked really well that time.

Cirkus :)


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Demon Kids Advice
PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2011 5:13 pm 
User avatar
Offline
born to perform.

Joined: 22 Mar 2003
Posts: 3251
Location: of my spongeballs eludes me.
That was effective on me too when I was young. ;-) ...And it still works well today.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Demon Kids Advice
PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 7:47 am 
User avatar
Offline
born to perform.

Joined: 14 Mar 2005
Posts: 1145
Location: Australia + New Zealand
Jeez.... All this talk makes me even more scared to perform for this age group. I have been trying to say to myself to get into the younger age group market as there is a need in my area but I'm just not brave enough.
I'm not sure if I'm game now!!!


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Demon Kids Advice
PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 2:30 pm 
Offline
Penguin

Joined: 06 Jan 2005
Posts: 115
Honestly, in 30 years of performing, I've really only had two or three tough children's audience, and this one was the worst. I think, though (correct me if I'm wrong, Paddy) that the younger the performer, the tougher it will be, as they are closer in age to the kids and lack the authority of an older person.

But, performing for kids can be incredibly rewarding and a heck of a lot of fun.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Demon Kids Advice
PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 5:37 pm 
User avatar
Offline
Moderator

Joined: 24 Jan 2003
Posts: 4110
Location: Milford OH
Webhed wrote:
Honestly, in 30 years of performing, I've really only had two or three tough children's audience, and this one was the worst. I think, though (correct me if I'm wrong, Paddy) that the younger the performer, the tougher it will be, as they are closer in age to the kids and lack the authority of an older person.

But, performing for kids can be incredibly rewarding and a heck of a lot of fun.

That's right about the age of the performer. I don't get to many bad kids and can usually control them but kids will test a young performer to see what they can get by with.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Demon Kids Advice
PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 6:21 pm 
User avatar
Offline
born to perform.

Joined: 14 Mar 2005
Posts: 1145
Location: Australia + New Zealand
paddy wrote:
Webhed wrote:
Honestly, in 30 years of performing, I've really only had two or three tough children's audience, and this one was the worst. I think, though (correct me if I'm wrong, Paddy) that the younger the performer, the tougher it will be, as they are closer in age to the kids and lack the authority of an older person.

But, performing for kids can be incredibly rewarding and a heck of a lot of fun.

That's right about the age of the performer. I don't get to many bad kids and can usually control them but kids will test a young performer to see what they can get by with.


Good advice. is 30 still young? I know that looking after my own kids is draining enough, let alone controlling a group of them!! :roll:


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Demon Kids Advice
PostPosted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 6:17 am 
User avatar
Offline
Moderator

Joined: 24 Jan 2003
Posts: 4110
Location: Milford OH
Well Soowee, you can always just spray the room with nitrous oxide gas can't you. BTW I answered your PM. Go out there and get them, you'll be successful as a kid's entertainer.

Paddy


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Demon Kids Advice
PostPosted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 7:02 am 
User avatar
Offline
born to perform.

Joined: 14 Mar 2005
Posts: 1145
Location: Australia + New Zealand
paddy wrote:
Well Soowee, you can always just spray the room with nitrous oxide gas can't you. BTW I answered your PM. Go out there and get them, you'll be successful as a kid's entertainer.

Paddy


Hahahahaha....yup I sure can. Thanks buddy.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Demon Kids Advice
PostPosted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 10:00 am 
User avatar
Offline
Penguin

Joined: 15 Sep 2010
Posts: 339
Yelling at the kids? That's wrong in so many ways. I try to plan a show with almost no pauses, and just hit them hard with a lot of visual magic every few seconds. I don't give them time to state their ideas as to how I do it. I had my share of bad behaving children, and I am a teacher, so I know what I'm talking about. I just explain to them, that if they see how it's done they should be quiet, because the beauty of magic is keeping secrets. I sort of make them play a game with me that we are all doing the show together, and they are my "co-magicians". I just tell them in a nice and soft voice that if they make so much noise (or whatever) it's impossible to show them the coolest effects that I saved for last.

This has worked for me so far. I only had one time where I specifically told three loud boys that if they didn't quiet down I couldn't continue the show, and I would rather have them leave if they didn't like it rather than ruin it for everyone else. The three boys left, and the rest of us had a great time. Sometimes this can be the most professional thing to do.

I just teach them how to watch a magic show, instead of being annoyed with them not knowing how to behave like an audience should. (If that makes sense)


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Demon Kids Advice
PostPosted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 5:12 pm 
User avatar
Offline
Moderator

Joined: 24 Jan 2003
Posts: 4110
Location: Milford OH
That is the way it should go Tryllearne, however, in the real world that doesn't alwys work. The show I talked about was about 5 years ago and I still remember it because it was the worst experience I have had in all my years of performing (over 15 yrs.) I had stopped the show a couple of times. In the room there were a group watching the show, in another area there was a group playing (very loudly) a game of "tag" & yet a 3rd group shouting and playing another game. The lady in "charge" could not control the troop of girl scouts and the only thing that worked was to use my "Marine Corps drill instructors" voice. It worked. You are right, one should never ever yell at the kids, but there is a very rare instance when it is necessary.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Demon Kids Advice
PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 7:41 pm 
User avatar
Offline
Penguin

Joined: 18 Feb 2011
Posts: 44
Location: Manawatu NZ
I have found that teenagers have best control over kids, as for some stupid reason kids are taught to stay away from teenagers as apparently we are "dangerous" therefore if we get a connection with the kids they will (generally) be well behaved...


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 20 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next

All times are UTC - 5 hours


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 0 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
cron
Powered by phpBB © 2009 Penguin Magic, Inc.