Yep, and with all this learning of the Mystery Method and so on, you will have to live with the fact you have to consciously manipulate women to get them to like you because you are not socially likable enough to do it without using a system.
There are tons of top entertainers that use and understand PUA. Derren Brown, John T. Sheets, Jerome Finley, and a few I won't name.
If you apply the communication strategies they use then you will increase your effectiveness tenfold.
Too many magicians don't know how to handle a group when people start talking in the middle of your trick and ignore you (so you decide to perform for the ONE person paying attention). Or like when Jason Randal got owned by David Letterman on the show because he allowed Letterman to control his performance.
I wish I could name all the magicians who use PUA in their material and when talking to people...most of you would be surprised at how many of the well known magicians understand PUA material.
Errr, think you have this the wrong way around Benji.
Love to know your source on that. Or are you just looking at what they are doing, seeing similarities and saying "Aha, pua techniques" ?
Here is Derren Brown talking about some seduction methods - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtSwTBGj ... re=related
Understanding PUA methods is much different from studying PUA material. There is no reason to suspect that a person who studies the Mystery Method will have any better control over an audience than somebody who studies the techniques from which Pick up Artistry was born.
Just because somebody does something naturally that others have to study does not mean they are using a PUA technique.
Just because somebody puts in a performance technique to make something memorable, does not mean they are using PUA material simply because they share a similarity or share the same source.