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 Post subject: I want to learn the pass..
PostPosted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 1:17 pm 
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as title....do u all guys hv any sugestions ???

which DVD is better for learning the pass?

thx


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 Post subject: Re: I want to learn the pass..
PostPosted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 7:14 pm 
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Funnily enough this was Acar's product of the week/email this week.

http://www.penguinmagic.com/p/2531


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 Post subject: Re: I want to learn the pass..
PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2011 9:17 am 
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You can learn the pass and alot more sleights with Card College. Personally I tend to value the knowledge I've learned through books a little higher than through videos.

-ArchAngel_G


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 Post subject: Re: I want to learn the pass..
PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2011 5:52 pm 
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First thing you need to ask yourself is, "Are you really going to use it?" No doubt the pass is a useful technique for many magicians but many others use the pass for applications that can be achieved more efficiently with other techniques. I have very little use for a pass for walk-around magic. Where the pass comes in useful for me is in my gambling demos and in those applications drop shifts and table hops are more appropriate techniques.


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 Post subject: Re: I want to learn the pass..
PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 11:42 am 
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The Pass is a great utility item to know and have control over. Not everyone will need it though. If you're getting seriously into card technique then this is a no brainer, otherwise the pass isn't ALWAYS going to help you.

Card College and Expert at the Card Table have always been valued resources for learning the sleight, but the Brick Pass DVD is great for refining your sleight. Of course with knowledge of how the move works you'll be able to learn easier from the DVD. The move is by no means an easy one to master though.


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 Post subject: Re: I want to learn the pass..
PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2011 6:54 pm 
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Brick pass is a good DVD, but if you really wanted full on learning experience, Kaufman's On the Pass is hard to beat.


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 Post subject: Re: I want to learn the pass..
PostPosted: Sun Aug 28, 2011 7:08 pm 
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my idea (not a specialist with the pass yet),

Find a video on youtube that explains it... and then practise..... for the next few months... yes, it won't be great at all and it's going to take a lot of time... but your fingers have to get used to the move, speed, postures of it... of all the sleight i know, the pass needs the most practise....

so practise, practise, practise.....


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 Post subject: Re: I want to learn the pass..
PostPosted: Sun Aug 28, 2011 7:41 pm 
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Phrenic wrote:
my idea (not a specialist with the pass yet),

Find a video on youtube that explains it... and then practise..... for the next few months... yes, it won't be great at all and it's going to take a lot of time... but your fingers have to get used to the move, speed, postures of it... of all the sleight i know, the pass needs the most practise....

so practise, practise, practise.....

Of all the sleights I know, the Pass is not the hardest.

And youtube won't really help you at all. You need to get a DVD. I suggest Jay Sankey's 'Extremely Ambitious' DVD or Pass With Care by Peter Cassford.

I learned it from Born to Perform Card Magic even though it was only briefly explained. I just worked on it for a few months and I like where it's at now. :)


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 Post subject: Re: I want to learn the pass..
PostPosted: Sun Aug 28, 2011 8:01 pm 
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Phrenic wrote:
and then practise..... for the next few years...


Fixed.


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 Post subject: Re: I want to learn the pass..
PostPosted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 12:02 am 
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akirafist wrote:
Phrenic wrote:
and then practise..... for the next few years...


Fixed.

If this was a facebook post i would "like" it.


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 Post subject: Re: I want to learn the pass..
PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 8:34 pm 
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PLEASE just buy 'On the Pass'.


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 Post subject: Re: I want to learn the pass..
PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 4:20 pm 
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I spent a bunch of time trying to learn the pass but eventually abandoned it. I admire those that can do it well but there are much easier alternatives. I spent time trying many of them and then selecting the alternative I liked and haven't looked back.


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 Post subject: Re: I want to learn the pass..
PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 3:33 am 
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if your just wont to control a card to the top bottom etc... just learn a good shift :D


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 Post subject: Re: I want to learn the pass..
PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 12:58 pm 
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If you're an "ala carte" buyer and want just a single move, try this:

http://www.thebluecrown.com/store/trick ... ndrea.html

I like this because it's motivated by the turning over of the deck from face up to face down, which to me seems a perfectly natural thing to do.


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 Post subject: Re: I want to learn the pass..
PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 9:28 pm 
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Some passes for you to learn:

1. Classic pass
2. Riffle pass
3. Robinson’s Invisible Riffle Pass
4. Dribble pass
5. Dribble cover pass (Krenzel)
6. Hermann Style Dribble Cover pass
7. Higham’s Dribble Shift
8. Longitudinal pass (Higham)
9. Twist pass (Wesley James)
10. Silent half jiggle pass (Dingle)
11. Stoboscopic riffle pass (Dingle)
12. Silent Pass (Dingle)
13. Dingle’s riffle pass
14. Jiggle pass
15. Ireland Drop Cover Pass
16. Float pass (Green)
17. Float pass backwards (Hollingworth)
18. Fingertip Float pass (Hollingworth)
19. Fingertip Float pass backwards (Hollingworth)
20. Deal Shift (Hollingworth)
21. Spring Shift (u.a. Hollingworth)
22. Free Turn pass (Cervon)
23. Free Turn table pass (Cervon)
24. Longitudinal Free Turn table pass (Cervon)
25. Fuente Square up Pass
26. Gambler’s sweep table pass
27. From the Mind of a Cardician (Marlo)
28. Cardician’s Mind keeps Working (Marlo)
29. A Table pass (Marlo)
30. Wrist Turn Pass No.1 (Marlo)
31. Wrist Turn Pass No.2 (Marlo)
32. Wrist Turn Pass No.3 (Marlo)
33. Marlo’s Wrist Turn Pass
34. Marlo’s Wrist Turn Table pass
35. Marlo’s Wrist Turn Drop Cover pass
36. Body Pass (Marlo)
37. Combination Pass (Marlo)
38. Fingertip pass (Marlo)
39. Table edge Pass (Marlo)
40. Extended Fingers Passes (Marlo)
41. turnaround pass (Marlo)
42. Spring Dribble pass (Marlo)
43. Spring Dribble Table pass (Marlo)
44. Bold Table Shift (Marlo)
45. Another Combination pass (Marlo)
46. End Tap pass (Marlo)
47. Tan Hock Chaun Pass (Marlo)
48. Unconventional Pass (Marlo)
49. Olram’s Ponsin Pass (Marlo)
50. Olram’s Bobble Cover pass (Marlo)
51. Marlo’s Tilt Pass
52. Tilt table pass (Marlo)
53. another tables tilt pass (Marlo)
54. Easy pass (Marlo)
55. Tabled Charlier pass (Marlo)
56. Midnight Shift (Draun)
57. Flutter pass (Draun)
58. Charlier pass
59. Invisible pass (Giobbi)
60. Falsche Volte (GK)
61. Pointer Pass (Swain)
62. Soft Riffle Pass (Swain)
63. Sleeve pulling Shift (Swain? Malone?)
64. Malone shift
65. Thompson pseudo pass
66. Marlo’s Variation (Topping Thompson)
67. bottom cover pass
68. Spread pass (Le Paul)
69. Black pass (Fred Black)
70. Location pass (Vernon)
71. Sprong’s pass (Johnny Sprong)
72. Fan Pass (Walter Baker)
73. Mexican Joe’s table pass
74. Charlie Miller’s table pass
75. Erdnase Shift, One Hand
76. Erdnase Shift, Two Hands
77. Longitudinal Shift (Erdnase)
78. Open Shift (Erdnase)
79. S.W.E. Shift
80. Drop Shift (Dom Paolino)
81. Zingone perfect table pass
82. Flesh Grip pass
83. Jog pass
84. Braue pass
85. Curious turnover pass (Bardosis)
86. Vernon’s one handed pass
87. Ehlers Shift
88. Bertram’s square up invisible pass
89. Turnover cover pass (Kaufmann)
90. Top Card Cover pass (Marlo)
91. Jenning’s Cover pass
92. Herman Style Cover pass
93. Juxta pass
94. Circle Shift (Jennings)
95. Paradigms
96. Slydini Pass
97. DL Shift
98. Hermann Pass (Stanyon)
99. Hermann Pass (Roterberg)
100. Jack Merlin’s Turnover Pass
101. Dr. Dayley’s Improved Turnover Pass
102. Sendax Tap Pass
103. Jack Miller Pass
104. KE Pass
105. Louis Histed Pocket Pass
106. Poltergeist Pass
107. Leipzig Pass
108. Light-Reft Spread pass (Forton & Keyserlingk, almost identical to Lee Asher's Losing control,but prior to it. )
109. Buckley Table Pass 3rd Method
Recorded by Denis Behr ,originally post at magic cafe
110. Bottom Retention Pass (Duffie)
111. Covered Bottom Retention Pass/Middle Pass(Duffie)( I came up this move with Kif after watching Peter Duffie's video explaination of Fred Robinson style Riffle Pass as well as Peter's demonstration of his Bottom Retention Pass. Peter never performed it in his website, but I am quite sure he already came up with the concept.)
112. Zendwich Pass( This is actually an reinvention of Harvey Rosenthal's move, but I wasn't informed with the original name when Harvey emailed me. Explained in my one man issue of Ego.)
113. Hong Kong Pass(Zenneth Kok, this is both a pass and half pass,a product of reversed construction of Herrman Style Pass)
114.Kowloon Pass(Zenneth Kok)
115.Zenneth Shift(Zenneth Kok, applying the cover of Malone Shift to Classic Pass)
116.No Touch Pass (Zenneth Kok, requires guts and misdirection to perform)
117.Touche Pass(Zenneth Kok)
118.Backstage Pass(Greg Wilson)
119.Shadow Pass(Luke Dancy)
120.Game Show Pass(Luke Dancy)
121.Casacade Pass(Miller)
122.Tabled Light-Reft Pass


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