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 Post subject: 4th Graders?
PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2013 9:45 am 
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I will be doing a show later this week for a fourth grade class.

Do you think this is a good routing?

Crystal clear cube

Hoppin spots

spongeball

food to go

strat o sphere


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 Post subject: Re: 4th Graders?
PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2013 9:57 am 
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Those are great tricks for that age, so it depends on how you present them.


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 Post subject: Re: 4th Graders?
PostPosted: Mon May 20, 2013 5:38 pm 
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Try and get Pure Smoke to go along with the sponeballs


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 Post subject: Re: 4th Graders?
PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2013 3:47 pm 
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PriceCheck5_1_2014 wrote:
Try and get Pure Smoke to go along with the sponeballs


I think they would frown upon having smoke in a school. Of course smoke suggests fire or smoking, both of which are illegal in a school. I would keep that kind of effect for outside of school.


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 Post subject: Re: 4th Graders?
PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2013 8:41 pm 
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I think I'll be doing this:

Crystal clear cube with change bag (takes 30 seconds as an opener)

Hoppin spots

Spongeball

Fiber optics

Disappearing card case with invisible deck

Strat-O-sphere (4-5 minute routine)

I'll maybe cut fiber optics depending on the time


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 Post subject: Re: 4th Graders?
PostPosted: Fri May 24, 2013 3:26 am 
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spinbaby wrote:
I think I'll be doing this:

Crystal clear cube with change bag (takes 30 seconds as an opener)

Hoppin spots

Spongeball

Fiber optics

Disappearing card case with invisible deck

Strat-O-sphere (4-5 minute routine)

I'll maybe cut fiber optics depending on the time

NO effect take 30 seconds! are you a "trick monkey" or are you a magician?


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 Post subject: Re: 4th Graders?
PostPosted: Sat May 25, 2013 9:43 am 
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paddy wrote:
spinbaby wrote:
I think I'll be doing this:

Crystal clear cube with change bag (takes 30 seconds as an opener)

Hoppin spots

Spongeball

Fiber optics

Disappearing card case with invisible deck

Strat-O-sphere (4-5 minute routine)

I'll maybe cut fiber optics depending on the time

NO effect take 30 seconds! are you a "trick monkey" or are you a magician?


I don't really think you can just say that a 30 second trick makes you a "trick monkey" and not a magician. You haven't seen the effect so you really have no reason to judge the trick based on its time. I recently saw David Copperfield's show and his opener with his appearance lasted about 30 seconds, but no one in the audience could have said that it wasn't a good trick because it's short.
Plus, many great magicians have agreed that you must vary the time of the effects in your show. One 30 second trick in the show isn't gonna ruin a show or make the audience think that he's not a magician.
Spinbaby, remember to add entertainment value in all of your effects, regardless of the time it takes to perform them. Make the trick more entertaining than the effect itself.
And remember that everyone has a different character, so don't just do what someone else, or even I, say. 30 second tricks may not work for Paddy because of his presentation-focused magic, but it may work for you. No matter the character you have, make sure that it entertains the kids because that's all that really matters. It doesn't matter how you entertain them, it just matters that you entertain them.
Thanks, Drew


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 Post subject: Re: 4th Graders?
PostPosted: Sat May 25, 2013 7:59 pm 
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I definitely think there is a time and a place for a 30second trick. Particularly as a transitional trick or a interlude or a gag etc.


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 Post subject: Re: 4th Graders?
PostPosted: Sat May 25, 2013 9:22 pm 
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paddy wrote:
spinbaby wrote:
I think I'll be doing this:

Crystal clear cube with change bag (takes 30 seconds as an opener)

Hoppin spots

Spongeball

Fiber optics

Disappearing card case with invisible deck

Strat-O-sphere (4-5 minute routine)

I'll maybe cut fiber optics depending on the time



NO effect take 30 seconds! are you a "trick monkey" or are you a magician?


I remember my first kid show. It was in a Children's Church. The kids were third and fourth graders. I thought it would be a good idea by opening with my intro to the magic, while tossing a coin from hand to hand. After a brief explanation of the magic they were about to witness, I was to vanish the coin. My wife was stationed at the rear of the audience, with a bowl full of bubblegum. As I "tossed" the coin into oblivion, she simultaneously tossed the bubblegum, which rained down over the children in a magical deluge.

It took me another ten minutes to calm the audience. Now I call that trick my "Bubblegum Closer"!


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 Post subject: Re: 4th Graders?
PostPosted: Tue Jun 04, 2013 9:44 am 
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Spinbaby- How did your show go?


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 Post subject: Re: 4th Graders?
PostPosted: Tue Jun 04, 2013 4:24 pm 
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Good. I ended up throwing fiber optics into the show and they LOVED it


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 Post subject: Re: 4th Graders?
PostPosted: Tue Jun 04, 2013 10:02 pm 
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When I was IN 4th grade I was doing magic with razorblades, fire-eating and a complete nightclub cigarette act. My grandfather was a magician and gave me all of his stuff, the kids loved my act. Back in the 60s when I was a kid the teachers didn't freak out over this stuff like they do today, they just beat the crap out of you and took all your cool toys for their own.


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