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 Post subject: Need help with a reveal
PostPosted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 9:25 pm 
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I have 2 cards in my hand. One double blank card and one faced w/ blank back. I would like to reveal this as two double blank cards. How would I best do this? Thanks for any advise.


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 Post subject: Re: Need help with a reveal
PostPosted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 9:32 pm 
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Not completely sure about the name, but I think what you're looking for is called the Flustration Count (even as I'm typing this, I'm feeling less sure about the name).

Basically what you would do is hold the 2 cards in your right hand with the face card face down on top. Turn your right hand up, flashing the bottom of the packet, then tilt your hand back down. Your left thumb then slides the top (faced) card into the left hand. The right hand then flashes the bottom of the remaining card, and is also thumbed onto the left hand. Done in a casual and nonchalant manner, it looks like you flashed the front and back of both cards, when you really showed the same front repeatedly.


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 Post subject: Re: Need help with a reveal
PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 1:23 am 
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I believe you just described the Elmsley Count... but now I'm less sure of that as I typed it. Either way, what you said would be the best way to do it.


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 Post subject: Re: Need help with a reveal
PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 3:19 am 
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I'm pretty sure it's called the flustration count and it would work.


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 Post subject: Re: Need help with a reveal
PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 8:19 am 
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It's definitely not an Elmsley, that much I know.

But after all, what's in a name? Would an Elmsley by any other name not hide the same cards?


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 Post subject: Re: Need help with a reveal
PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 3:56 pm 
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Thanks. I will look at some videos on flustration count. Coming out of the packet the cards are in the starting order you describe. But I am a little anxious about ending with the face on the bottom, problem flashing when putting cards away. I would feel more comfortable if face was buried between cards at the end.


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 Post subject: Re: Need help with a reveal
PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 10:04 pm 
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A Mexican Turnover would work.


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 Post subject: Re: Need help with a reveal
PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 10:58 pm 
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Thank you Brisco. That looks like the ending I want.


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 Post subject: Re: Need help with a reveal
PostPosted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 2:54 pm 
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You ARE looking for the Flustration count, salmononius2 did not explain the Elmsley count, you have to have at least 3 cards for an Elmsley count and I'm not sure how a Mexican turn-over could help because it is very easy to flash both sides of the cards. Usually you use a Mexican turn-over to switch a card not to hide the face of the card.


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 Post subject: Re: Need help with a reveal
PostPosted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 10:55 pm 
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Thanks for your input. As I saw the ending, I would have a packet of two cards sitting on the mat. Top card is a double blank, bottom card is a blank back with face down. Lift top off, show both faces as blank. Then use Mexican turnover to switch cards, the card that is flipping is the double blank which is what I want to show. If you are saying that it is a difficult move , I can't argue the point. But I assume with gaining enough skill and watching angles, one would not flash the face of the bottom card being switched. Otherwise it would not be a move used in three card Monte, which it is. Where am I going wrong in my thinking?


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 Post subject: Re: Need help with a reveal
PostPosted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 9:14 am 
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It looks like you have it figured out pretty well and that looks like it will work for you. I decided to make a little video anyways that shows the moves just to clear up any confusion about which move is which.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYe6duXlQNU


Last edited by goatears on Sat Jun 15, 2013 12:05 am, edited 1 time in total.

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 Post subject: Re: Need help with a reveal
PostPosted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 11:35 am 
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Goatears, thanks so much for the effort you are putting into this but I get a message saying video is unavailable when I click on link from my IPhone???


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 Post subject: Re: Need help with a reveal
PostPosted: Sat Jun 15, 2013 9:19 pm 
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Now I got the link to work. Thanks again.


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