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 Post subject: Raven or the Bat???
PostPosted: Sat Sep 07, 2002 1:02 pm 
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i don't know which one to pick.. i know both are good. What are the pro's and cons of each?


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 Post subject: Re: Raven or the Bat???
PostPosted: Thu Sep 26, 2002 5:42 pm 
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I have seen the bat be done, it is very cool, but i own the Raven and I LOVE IT! it is my best trick i've gotten so far, it is cheapest on this site and is very good quality, i love performing it for other people. they are totally baffled.


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 Post subject: Re: Raven or the Bat???
PostPosted: Fri Sep 27, 2002 12:34 pm 
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Right now I am deciding between the two also. Anyone, please feel free to email me advice at joelorah@yahoo.com <br> <br>Thanks


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 Post subject: Re: Raven or the Bat???
PostPosted: Sat Sep 28, 2002 4:19 pm 
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Like i said before, the Raven is Awsome! i love it, it is also very easy, no sleght of hand or anything, and there are a TON of uses that you could come up with. The Raven is also cheaper than the bat. <br> <br> Hope that helps


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 Post subject: Re: Raven or the Bat???
PostPosted: Sat Sep 28, 2002 4:23 pm 
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why do hope that the fire alarm can only be used once?


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 Post subject: Re: Raven or the Bat???
PostPosted: Wed Oct 02, 2002 2:45 pm 
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Well I personally like the Bat after watching the Bat video. <br>The Raven is a cleaner vanish but more difficult to prepare your hands for. In other words, your always ready to go with the Bat. The Raven requires a little fishing around. Something I have yet to get down comfortably with out preping before hand. <br>The wash vanish with the Bat is great and almost as clean as the Raven vanish and you can still show your hands clean with a twist of the wrist. <br>I also like the ease of retrieving the vanished coin with the Bat. So basically, the Bat is always hidden and the Raven, when in work mode must be conceled. Granted, it's not difficult to hide, but I just love the freedom the bat has to offer. That is what tipped the scales for me. <br> <br>Hope that helps. <br>Paul <br>


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 Post subject: Re: Raven or the Bat???
PostPosted: Sat Oct 05, 2002 3:28 pm 
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The raven of course!!!!!!!


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