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 Post subject: Anyone own Expert Card Technique?
PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2003 8:51 pm 
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Hi All,

I'm a newbie here. I've been lurking for a couple of weeks, and the advice here has already paid off. I'm pretty new to magic but I recently got the Royal Road by Hugard and found it to be extermely helpful. I'm now through most of it, and I was wondering if anyone know if Expert Card Techniques (also by Hugard) overlaps much with Royal Road, or is it a good addition to it?

A couple of people here mentioned some other books, but I'm having trouble finding them, and I'm not ready to plunk down the big bucks for Card College yet.

Thanks,

Eric.


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Yes I do and it concentrates on flourishes and the show off card manip kind of stuff. Buy it but be prepared for some serious carpal tunnel syndrome.


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Yes I do and it concentrates on flourishes and the show off card manip kind of stuff. Buy it but be prepared for some serious carpal tunnel syndrome.


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I don't believe there is any overlap. They are both written by Jean Hugard and Frederick Braue, and Expert Card Technique was meant as a follow-up for Royal Road to Card Magic.


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What more can I add, it's very good (the little I'v read of it)
as you'v seen in RRTCM Hugard&Braue explain things realy well & the illustrations are realy good - learnt how to do the Invisible turn over pass from Expert Card Techniques in a couple of days (took weeks to get it looking good tho :wink: )

& yes Carpul tunnel Syndrom is strating to set in :x :evil: :cry:


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Yes, I have it, it's excellent. I suggest getting it. If you can't find it here then look on places like amazon. That's where I got mine.


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djmick wrote:
Yes I do and it concentrates on flourishes and the show off card manip kind of stuff. Buy it but be prepared for some serious carpal tunnel syndrome.


djmick, are you sure you're not thinking of Card Manipulations by Jean Hugard? I have a copy of Expert Card Technique right in front of me (a 1940 edition), and it contains only ten pages about flourishes.

I no longer have a copy of the Royal Road to Card Magic, but from what I can remember I would say there is a fair amount of overlap. ECT , though, gets into some more difficult material. For instance, there is a chapter on performing the perfect faro shuffle.

Personally, I think ECT is a little dated now. There are easier ways to perform some of the sleights these days. Card College is a better way to go, but I'm sure money is a concern. I only have two out of five volumes of CC myself.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 24, 2003 4:59 pm 
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All,

Thanks for the responses. It sounds like for the small price, Expert Card Techniques is probably worth it. Then I start saving for Card College!

Eric.


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Basil as much as I hate to admit it, Your right I was thinking of Hugards card manip book, Thanks for the correction. Mick


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Mick, you're welcome. I probably would have made the same mistake if I hadn't been looking at the book recently.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 25, 2003 5:45 am 
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K I just had a look at both books (the joy of e-books :D ) here is the contents page for each book:-

RRTCM
Preface
The Overhand Shuffle, I
The Riffle Shuffle
Flourishes
The Glide
The Glimpse
The Key Card
The Palm
The Backslip
The Overhand Shuffle, II
False Shuffles and Cuts
The DL and Turnover
The Pass
Miscellaneous Flourishes
The Reverses
The Hindu Shuffle and Other
Controls
The Classic Force
Top and Bottom Changes
Arrangements
Routines
Platform Tricks

ECT:
Dedication
Foreword
Introduction
Nomenclature
Part 1. Sleights
*Chapter 1. The Secret Lifts
*Chapter 2. False Deals
*Chapter 3. The Side Slip
*Chapter 4. The Pass
*Chapter 5. Palming
*Chapter 6. False Shuffles
*Chapter 7. False Cuts
*Chapter 8. Changes
*Chapter 9. Crimps
*Chapter 10. The Spectator Peek
*Chapter 11. The Glimpse
*Chapter 12. The Jog
*Chapter 13. The Reverse
*Chapter 14. Sundry Sleights
*Chapter 15. The Rear Palm
*Chapter 16. The Perfect Faro Shuffle

Part 2. Flourishes
*Flourishes
*Interlocked Production
*The Color Change
*Impossible Color Change
*Covinous Color Change
*The Pressure Fan
*A Fan Flourish
*Springing the Cards--New Method
*Top and Bottom Changes
*There It is!

Part 3. Technique
*Technique
*Secret Addition of Cards to the Pack
*Replacement of Palmed Cards
*The Palm in Action
*Covering a Palm
*Secret Count
*Forcing
*The Multiple Force
*Four Card Force
*The Lost Card
*The Prearrange Pack

Part 4. Tricks with Cards
Part 5. Miscellany
Part 6. Misdirection and
Presentation

As you can see there is a little overlap, but nothing to realy worry about, IMO they are both brilliant books, well worth the read


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