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does having fast hands when performing affect how ppl think of how u did it?
yes 59%  59%  [ 24 ]
no 17%  17%  [ 7 ]
i dont have fast hands 24%  24%  [ 10 ]
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 4:34 pm 
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u know, alot of ppl say i have fast hands when i perform card tricks or coin tricks. but logicaly speed alone could not have achieved such things .
but still ppl's explanations are usually that my hands are fast... its not really a problem, but that statement has left the effect with only one explanation, that im too fast.But i am sure many of u would agree that in MAGIC, speedy hands or something like XCM might ruin the magical effect.
any tips on how i can improve myself.

one more thing... when im holding a deck of cards, i cant help myself to cut,shuffle,dribble etc. its a habit. would it be better to be more professional as to tinker with the cards only when u have to?

all opinions and advices will be greatly appreciated.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 4:48 pm 
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I don't like magic where people say its done with fast hands. There are some that this is the explanation where others such as cards turning blank, etc. that cannot be.


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I am going to quote Roayl Road to Card Magic here, Chapter on Flourishes, The Ruffle, page 50 paragraph 3.

"Some performers get into the habit of using this flourish almost continuously with neither rhyme nor reason. This is not only inartistic but also irritating to the audience, and it betrays nervousness on the part of the performer."


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I think you have to be careful with fast hands. People know magic is sleight of hand, and if you’re moving fast they just assume that it's part of how you did it. I've even had suspicion on things as simple as Springing the Cards, people think I'm shuffling or something (who knows?). I feel it is best to make them think they are getting a very clear view of what is going on, as opposed to a very confusing bombardment of card movement. That's why color changes are so popular; they think it changes right before their eyes. When they think they see everything, and then their minds are blowing it's almost like your hands are so fast it was invisible to the naked eye.


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... which is where the pass comes in..

I think its because most magicians use 'complicated-looking' cuts.. to control the spec's selected card.. which leaves me to believe why the 'pass' was created..

To be honest, I've never used the Pass in any of my tricks let alone in my whole routine.. I always use some kind of triple cut and then keep their card on one spot.. so i guess just using the pass is the best way (at least if you control the cards like I do)


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There is a difference between sleight of hand magic and just magic with cards. I want to say magic with gaffed cards but in any case cards that turn blank, distorted, etc need gaffs and sleight of hand doesn't explain it. I like this kind of magic.


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a lot of times when I'm false cutting or shuffling not losing their force card or what have you, and they look lost, I'll slow down to a creeping movement, and a false sybil cut for instance they'll still not realize its false no matter how slow you do it, minding you practice all of your falses VERY WELL before slowing a performance.


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Max Malini was asked why he did things so slow, his response;

"Because I do things slow, if they are watching me, I wait"

Then he was asked, how long would you wait? his response;

"Ill wait a minute, a hour, a day, a week, a month, as long as it takes for there eyes to leave where i dont want them looking, then the magic is done"

Fast Hands = Bad
Smooth hands = Good


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 2:49 pm 
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Arkesus wrote:
I am going to quote Roayl Road to Card Magic here, Chapter on Flourishes, The Ruffle, page 50 paragraph 3.

"Some performers get into the habit of using this flourish almost continuously with neither rhyme nor reason. This is not only inartistic but also irritating to the audience, and it betrays nervousness on the part of the performer."

Thanks for reminding me :D :) :o :lol:
I have the book and i've read this part, i agree.
When i got 'Showoff with cards' DVD i couldn't help but showoff. Its been almost a year and im still trying to break the habit. Maybe a couple of fancy false shuffles every now and then but i think people prefer to just see the cards shuffled normally. My favourite flourish has to be the perfect riffle shuffle followed by the casino dealer style finish (can't remeber the name of it).
Joe :D


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 9:33 pm 
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Arkesus wrote:
I am going to quote Roayl Road to Card Magic here, Chapter on Flourishes, The Ruffle, page 50 paragraph 3.

"Some performers get into the habit of using this flourish almost continuously with neither rhyme nor reason. This is not only inartistic but also irritating to the audience, and it betrays nervousness on the part of the performer."



that is an amazing quote


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"Ill wait a minute, a hour, a day, a week, a month, as long as it takes for there eyes to leave where I dont want them looking, then the magic is done"

Fast Hands = Bad
Smooth hands = Good


That's it!
If your hands are too fast, the magic might get missed by the spectator...whats the purpose of that? Too many people do not work in a smooth tempo, you want their attention, so you can control their attention. TOO FAST AND YOU LOSE THEM and you have wasted your time and theirs....meaning NO TIPS. :x

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