I am very dissapointed by the trailer, discribtion and teaching.I feel more like he is giving hints
in how to do it. He is definitly not teaching the routine [my opinion]. It was the last time, i
bought peter´s stuff. On his card force pdf he is giving more information on how to do such an
effect. That is just stupid and makes me angry. I am really sorry.
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If you read the final line of the ad copy, you'll see "Not for Beginners." In my view this is a
gross understatement, falling far short of fairly representing the highly advanced, nuanced, and
rigorously demanding work required to pull off this effect. In saying this I take nothing away from
Peter, unquestionably an accomplished practitioner. I do quibble with his false modesty in saying
"I'm not a card man;" indeed, he had to have become a "card man" to pull off what he has. Some of
the mechanics will require vastly more hours and years of practical experience to even approach
success with this effect. I have more than fifty years in the game and don't consider myself a
beginner; willing to work hard, I simply find the learning curve for this one beyond the bounds of
practical worth for myself. Others may love it and be willing to stretch the distance. I was
disappointed in the representation that his is within the reach of most.
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What you get in this download
-variation of the Zarrow(using "guestimation", classic force,
Looking for easy advantages almost not worth mentioning, using intuition that you
aquire with performance experience, and footage of Pete performing his jazz mentalism in studio. I
was really hoping he would touch more on his psychological card forcing (loved his PDF on the
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Peter Turner that does what he does. Bold methods, subtleties, old methods revisited, and
understanding the situation he is in, each time differently. For anybody wondering if the main trick
works, it does. Peter explains everything you need to know to perform the version that he does in
the trailer. I tried it the day after I watched it at the bar with a group of friends and went on
for an hour just using the concepts and tips he explains. When you get it clean, they have no clue
how you pulled it off. When you don't, there is plenty of ways to get around that. Never once it
felt to them like I failed or that something didn't work - if you're open to jazzing, that is. If
you're not, you should know that it is the main point of Peter's material. I didn't see until a week
later that he included for free the pdf which he refers to during the video, very kind of him,
although I think that it's better if you come up with your own methods to do what it explains. As
usual with Peter, you get the most value from the advices, tips, and thinking behind the mere
effect. Worth it if you ask me.
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So usually I don't speak up much on the review side of projects that I am personally involved in
because I feel biased and at the same time...
I feel like a lot of the complaints for this
product are people irritated that they don't believe in the methods being achievable by themselves.
Have I been doing material like this for just shy of a decade? Yes.
Can I perform
the exact variation shown in the demo and have I done it multiple times? Yes.
Did I clearly
understand everything taught to me and progressively take the knowledge out in the real world to
completely blow peoples minds?! YES!
I'm not ridiculing anyone or questioning anyone's
skills here and at the same time...If a severely ADD 24 year old kid from Columbus, Ohio can do it
and understand everything then anyone can.
This is phenomenal information and any one can
have the same level of success with it that I have had with it. I hope that those purchasers who
have received this project then felt disheartened will go back and review the material with a more
simplified mind-set of thinking...
"how can my personality bend these concepts into working
pieces of astonishment?"
P.S. Never have I ever had to use
the Zarrow shuffle adjustment...just channel your inner DaOrtiz and let that personality cover the
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I'm sad to say that I was very disappointed when I watched this explanation. I understand that it's
a psychological effect, but I bought it because I wanted to learn how to do it as seen in the
trailer, what failed to register at the time was that both spectators named a seven. And yes - it
works as in the trailer if they pick a seven, but if they pick any other number, - then shuffling is
involved, - NOT what I had wanted at all. Peter is no doubt a very clever magician, but the trailer
is very misleading.
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This video is about psychological forcing, and not specifically about the tricks he uses to
demonstrate the different forces (and things that look like them). Even still, you'll definitely be
able to pull off the effects shown in the trailer pretty much exactly as shown. You definitely need
to practice to get the flow and instant response.
His modification to the Zarrow shuffle
seems hard at first. But notice if you do Faro shuffles often enough, you begin to nearly always cut
at the exact centre of the deck (26 cards), and can tell pretty quickly if you missed the mark.
Peter has taken that ability a logical step forward. As a memdeck user, I'm going to be using this
For the people who think it is staged because of the common recurring numbers -
when you try these out in public, you'll quickly discover that this is no exaggeration. He kills 3
immediately because of it.
It is interesting that the spec comes away feeling like they
kept changing their mind when it was really directed. Lots of methods demonstrated for getting
there. Pretty clever.
The "jazzing" at the end of the video is highly entertaining. There
is a lot to be learned in that segment alone.
The video plus the PDF should keep you busy
for a while. It's quite a lot of material once you start working on it.
The biggest lesson:
Practice and observe - take advantage of *everything* available to you.
I've wrote a review about this download but I did not post it and now it's been almost a month.
What is it?:
The biggest issue I've seen on the reviews is the lack of transparency in
the advertisement of what the product entails.
There are no real routines in this download but
rather tools (valuable tools) to achieve an effect similar to ACAAN and Vernon's "The Trick that
Cannot be Explained". I say similar because these tools allow for flexibility. Again, this product
does not give routines. This is not really a negative point, per se (more later).
comes with Turner's eBook 1: Psychological Card Forces (30 dollar value).
"Pseudo riffle stacking": a way to "riffle stack"; to get a card from a certain position to
another position. This is used as a fail safe. However, although people are stating this is
impossible, that is not true. You just need to get the card to roughly the place you want it plus or
minus two. Of course, it would be the ultimate goal to get it to the position or plus one but that
is not totally necessary as you can use other techniques in the PDF.
forces": Peter's work on psych card forces. This is a complement to his PDF.
Card forces": Peter's take on more "traditional" ways of forcing. This is something that can work
100 percent with practice. The peek taught here is same as the one taught in Freeform Mentalism.
Advice here and there: again Peter's advice and take on mentalism is great and worth its
weight in gold. Peter's work on story telling here is great along with his work on dual reality
(touched upon in the download).
Performance: Peter performs a jazz routine using some of
these techniques. Now, here is where I took off a star. This whole project feels rushed. What
would've been super helpful is if Penguin laid Peter's commentary over his performances. In jazzing,
a performer's thoughts are valuable as you can see his approach.
Overall, this project
without the PDF disappointed many people. However, (with the PDF) this is bold and done correctly,
creates miracles. Now with any psy force, it takes confidence, and boldness and practice and
practice and practice. Eventually combined with this book and Banachek's PS 1 book on card
positions, you can have a truly amazing routine. However, more time could've been spent on the
project, mainly a commentary over some of the Peter's performances; especially the last performance.
But Peter is a genius and he can take old principles and turns it into miracles. If you are a
beginning mentalist looking for a easy ACAAN this is not it. Look for other works done on ACAAN. If
you want something that's 100 percent, this is not it. However if you want to create miracles, get
this and make the best out of it. The download is more of a supplement to the PDF then stand alone;
the value lies in the both the PDF and the download.
I completely understand when some of you believe this will not work BUT, this will work.
Just practice it and you'll find that it's sooo easy to do the effect.
I'm now on a
level that I ask to think of a card, and a number, I have a post it since the beginning with a card
and number written on it, it matches..
Just practice it !
As someone who already bought the PDF, the real value in this is getting to see some of the forces
The video feels very incomplete in places, and the teaching doesn't feel like it
goes into enough depth - in fact whole sections seem to have been glossed over entirely.
detailed talk through of the actual routine as performed in the trailer should be included, surely?
Yes, you can reverse engineer it from watching it, but that's not really the point when paying for
an explanation, is it?
Yes, there IS a lot of valuable information in this download -
especially since the PDF is included (I definitely regret paying for them separately now!) and if
you put the work into studying this, I'm sure you'll get results, but as a teaching video I don't
think it does the topic, or Pete's work on it, justice.