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POINTLESS QUERY

This looks like the same gimmick as the pen through a dollar, I wont give away how that is dont here, But I also dont want two of the same with only the routine being different, Please advise.


Asked at 09:54am on July 22nd, 2016 by lordrhast (25 karma)
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@shadowpest...
The end of the 'stealth pen' gimmick, as well as the pen itself, are so 'generic' that the tip looks perfectly fine on the 'other' end. No one has ever pointed it out otherwise. Nor, have I ever been concerned about it ;-)
Now, the 'pointless pen' is 'prettier' with its contrasting white/black colors, but the trick principle is the same.
So, if you have "Pointless", enjoy it. It's a fun trick.
But, now, you can perform a "pen thru dollar" routine too without buying another 'cheap' pen.
Ta da...!


Answered at 08:52am on July 31st, 2016 by MagicYoda (9138 karma)
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Aha...someone has finally seen this...good for you.
For all intents and purposes, you are correct.
Yes, the routine is different and the pen is different.
Oh yes, and the price is very different too.
I'm a great fan of Greg Wilson, but this seems a bit over the top for what you get.
Using that 'other' pen that you mention, I've done this "pointless" effect for years, along with 'jamming' it thru a dollar as initially learned ;-)
Best wishes...


Answered at 10:55am on July 22nd, 2016 by MagicYoda (9138 karma)
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Thank you for the reply as soon as I watched the demo I kind of felt that jamming feeling of that the old trick but this time it was the price of this new routing jamong me.. Also, this makes me really question the validity of these and any other reviews now in that no one has 1 starred it due to being in my opinion mislead because I think they sell the other trick also on the site under the pen through the dollar name and a greatly reduced price. I am also a fan of Greg Wilson, but this concerns me. If PM is listening please send me a note to address this .


Answered at 11:57am on July 22nd, 2016 by lordrhast (25 karma)
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You can without giving it all away , as MagicYoda, He and I have been using the under $20 range gimmick for this, but I give them credit for trying to upsell with a new routine, like I mentioned you can use the pen through the dollar the create this effect also, in my opinion, It may be a slightly different routine but I question all of the reviews and no one has brought this up. This one just seems very pricey for the difference. There are several pens through something. I can use the one where the point vanishes and do a similar routine with practiced spinning and you do have to get that smooth but you can get an out anytime you just want to make it a normal pen and lay it down for examination with my very much cheaper version. There are different pens through dollars out there where only the tip goes through for a quick clean exit for examination. I also find it odd their both of their pen through the dollar gimmicks are now out of stock also. ... Hmmm. I really like this group and am not looking for a reason to shop or question their deals, but about every email I get starts with a "Where has this one been all my career" or "A must have" That I am questioning the validity of claims on each email and they hold no urgency for me anymore.... Buy that is just my opinion. Just google pen through a dollar and you will find the version to which I am referring. Gook Luck and successful Magick.


Answered at 07:26pm on July 29th, 2016 by lordrhast (25 karma)
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I was not aware that the pen thru dollar had the gimmick on the other end of the pen (not the tip end) that allows the tip to "look perfectly normal" with the tip on either end. Pen thru dollar only needs a "tip/tip end" gimmick where "Pointless" needs that as well as a "tip/bottom end" gimmick also.

I may be off base as I do not know the workings of the particular "pen thru anything" you are talking about but my experience with at least 4 versions of "pen thru anything" were only gimmicked on the pointy end.


Answered at 06:56pm on July 29th, 2016 by shadowpest (10 karma)
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